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Technical *** December 2015 Banger Meet - Naughty but good at it ***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Dec 1, 2015.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 330

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    Here is the banger link list:

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Flat Ernie maintains the monthly link list. Every month is listed:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

    Banger basics. another info link list:

    http://www.fordgarage.com/

    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    Post #105 of link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=6

    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484


    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://www.centuryperformance.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:

    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05


    Chevy Banger Stuff

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/22469332/The-High-Speed-Internal-Combustion-Engine-Ricardo-1931

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10


    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226


    New Banger Block in the Works
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/
     
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2015
  2. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
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    Holy Crap, Christmas this month!!
    Maybe time to quit misbehaving................................nah, next year.
     
  3. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
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    I'm in....finally got all the parts and pieces to get the Zipper back on the road.
     
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  4. V4F
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    from middle ca.

    good for you denis
     
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  5. 29 Speedster
    Joined: Aug 2, 2011
    Posts: 151

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    from Colorado

    Denis: Take you time, it's cold outside. Brought the Speedster home from Cream de Chrome Car Show Sunday evening. Cool, Snowy ride!, but kind of neat.
     
  6. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
    Posts: 1,618

    Binger
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    from wyoming

    Checking in.
     
  7. It being christmas (and since no family members knows how to order banger speed parts), any other books to get from ole santy Clause? Got all of the above.
     
  8. waxhead
    Joined: May 11, 2013
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    from West Oz

  9. denis4x4
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    It's OK, but pretty generic. Jim's book is probably the best one out there. In fact, I have to order another one as somebody "borrowed" mine!
     
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  10. Jim's book is great. So good in fact I have a garage copy and a house copy. Happy December where did the year go? Les Andrews also make a blue book that is all about trouble shooting.
     
  11. Some of the stuff in California Bill's book are kinda off the wall such as relieving the ports which didn't really help much on 4 barrel, oops excuse me, 4 banger engines. I do have to say though at one time it was all there was on the subject. I lost my original one so bought one of Dan's reprints. The little Riley book has some interesting and good stuff.. After all these years screwing with model A's and B engines I think Jim's is probably the best available at this time. You can check out stuff like Ricardo's book on the development of combustion chamber the but you do not really need that info as you are just going to buy whatever head you can afford. Most of the things you read are about increasing the RPM's which just lead to bearing and crank problems. If you go to inserts you can turn it a little faster but get too fast and you will break your crank at , most likely #4 rod throw. If you plan a lot of freeway driving then you need a strong engine but you will need taller gearing. Nothing wrong with punching it from the signal but it is not a modern engine so you cannot drive it like one. But you can have a lot of fun and the feeling of accomplishment when you beat someone across the intersection. Just some thoughts that fell out.
     
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  12. MJW
    Joined: Jun 29, 2006
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    1. PA. NJ. local HAMBERS group

    I have all the books listed above but use the Model A Service Bulletins book the most as it has all of the the stock information that I'm too lazy to search for on the Fordbarn. There's a couple on the ebay for less than 20 bucks. I use it to baseline before making any changes.
     
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  13. winduptoy
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    I'm getting you guys the same thing I got you for Christmas last year.
     
  14. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
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    You would think that we would have run out of lumps of coal already.....
     
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  15. I'm working on a front mount for my T/A fairgrounds racer. [​IMG]
     
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  16. I asked for out of print Don Montgomery books off amazon. Santa is bringing me a 32 Tudor.......ll
     
  17. Tim O'Kelley
    Joined: Nov 20, 2011
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    from texas

    Speaking of Santa-I need a T5 torque tube adapter/u-joint! Is Crazy Daddyo out there? I have a nice banger and fresh T5 4wd that desperately wants to mate to my 41 banjo torque tube. Santa?

    Tim
     
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  18. ROCKER77
    Joined: Jun 30, 2008
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    Since we are asking Santa for awesome things I too would like a T5 behind my banger but I could settle for a '39 trans with Zephyr gears you know which ever is the handy at the time
     
  19. waxhead
    Joined: May 11, 2013
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    Hopefully Santa has a Winfield BB intake in his shed that he wants to pass onto me for xmas. I would even swap him my mint condition Winfield B intake and some cash if required :)
     
  20. What's a T5 worth today? I have one over here in Oak Hills that I don't plan on using. I have an unassembled 39 box too. Just Ford gears. If I had some long Lincolns I would be running them!!
     
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  21. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
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    I have to be santas helper this year building a teardrop to go behind the RP for Xmass.
     
  22. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
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    from middle ca.

    What's a T5 worth today?
    wrecking yards get 1-300$ you have just the trans ? what year is it ?
     
  23. colinsmithson
    Joined: Jan 27, 2013
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    Does any 1 know who sells a kit for the T5 conversion using the torque tube these days
    I have a mate looking for 1
    Thanks
     
  24. V4F
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    from middle ca.

    yes , there is a guy on here that does that . name is "dadyo" something
     
  25. Starting to fit my engine to chassis. ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1449357578.910679.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1449357602.554603.jpg ImageUploadedByH.A.M.B.1449357660.240071.jpg
     
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  26. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
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    crazydaddyo is the member name to contact. You can also check out the link in the monthly banger header
    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226


     
  27. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
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    from middle ca.

    bangers .... does anyone put a little lube on the cam end b 4 bolting the flywheel housing ?
     
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  28. Didn't use lube at the very back side but did drill two small holes in the cam so the oil could return back into the block.
     
  29. V4F
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    from middle ca.

    ive been using (very/very thin) red line syn grease . thanks .. steve
     
  30. Bluto
    Joined: Feb 15, 2005
    Posts: 5,114

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    It Christmas already

    I'm ALIVE!
     

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