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Projects De-wooding a Confederate Deuce

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Indianrider, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. Indianrider
    Joined: Dec 6, 2015
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    Got back into the body shop at school this semester and dragged in my '32 to start the De-Wooding process. The biggest problem I have is nothing is really lining up in door/pillar/panel alignment with 1/3 original wood and 2/3 home built replacement wood from oak tables found at yard sales (second previous owner). Some of it is a real hack job, I found door shims made from broken paint sticks. :eek:

    I was able to square the roof today and got that braced up, working on removing 87 yr old stuck screws to pull the doors but it looks like the steel A pillar faces are coming without a fight.

    Does anyone know where I can find body measurements and dimensions for a 1932 Chevy Confederate Five window coupe? It would go a lot faster if I did not have to guess at how to fit everything back together.
     

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  2. oliver westlund
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    cool car, wish i could be of some help, using opposing diagonal measurements is how you find if somethings square, maybe start there?
     
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  3. mgtstumpy
    Joined: Jul 20, 2006
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    Here's a steel out of a 32 sedan, it may assist?
     
  4. coilover
    Joined: Apr 19, 2007
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    from Texas

    I have an all steel 34 Master coupe that I learned a few things about wood replacing. You can buy tubing in all shapes and thickness but will have to order some of the rectangular sizes needed. For gentle bends I used a heavy round brass rod and two railroad tracks set at various distance apart. For tight corners I plasma cut two 11g plates to fit and then boxed with the right width strap. A trick I come up with (maybe old hat) was to space the strap off the plate with 1/8" gas welding rod and make a pass with the mig set to fill the gap without burning the edges. Once filled a second filler pass would let one grind the corners "pretty" without weakening the joint. I had to make a couple tries to get the deck lid hinge mounts just right but they work great. I used two right to left pillar square tubes plus two short vertical tubes to mount the factory dash to all steel. The top insert is from a GMC van that has square ribs to match the body style. The factory frame was boxed, a "K" member added and then strong 2x3x3/16 square tubing was used to make outriggers for the body mounts. By having these rigid the body could be pulled into place to get the gaps right. I can't give the engine/trans/rear selection or show pictures because it is all Hamb unfriendly. Careful measuring, lots of cardboard cut for templates, and realizing it's not a weekend job will get you there. Good luck.
     
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  5. DLRIDES
    Joined: Sep 29, 2014
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    from Newton NC

    IMO - Remove all wood !!!!!!


    I’ve done it recently on a Confederate Coach, and the body alignment turned out perfect. I don’t have time to write in detail, but if you search, I’ve posted details on a couple of threads. Warning : Fabricate main sills first ! Without them as a base, you’ll go in circles trying to get items to align.

    Send me a PM if you want, and I’ll share a few hundred detailed build photos.



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  6. Not trying to be a spelling teacher but the word your referring to DEUCE. HRP
     
  7. TWKundrat
    Joined: Apr 6, 2010
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    Can't help you with the measurements but I am feeling quite triggered by that nasty "confederate" word
     
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  8. Huh? What's nasty about the word "Confederate" ? HRP

    Chevrolet BA Confederate Series
     
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  9. Bruce_C
    Joined: Oct 20, 2007
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    You could also try AACA.ORG for advice if you haven't tried that site already. There is a specific chevy section. People there were able to help me with my '28 Pontiac.
    Bruce
     
  10. TWKundrat
    Joined: Apr 6, 2010
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    I'm just making fun of the people that try to be offended by everything who can't even handle reruns of the Dukes of Hazzard being on tv
     
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  11. I was gonna get my feelings hurt, being a Southern Boy I identify with the term Confederate & Rebel. HRP
     
  12. Keep erasing history and it's bound to repeat itself.
     
  13. sloppy jalopies
    Joined: Jun 29, 2015
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    Not a bowtie guy... but '33-'34 ford three windows had a lot of wood in the bodies...
    I replaced the wood with 1" x 2" tubing, but I recessed the steel about 3/8" from the inside measurements...
    This let me drill, tap and countersink screw on 3/8" hardwood moldings from "lowes" to the steel, this lets the upholsterer drive his tacks into the molding to anchor the material... my $0.02.
     
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  14. AngleDrive
    Joined: Mar 9, 2006
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    Then you could always do it correctly.
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  15. TWKundrat
    Joined: Apr 6, 2010
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    I'm always impressed by people who re-wood those old cars by copying the remnants of the original wood. I have a '25 fordor model t that luckily a lot of the wood was redone on already when I bought it. Even so, it's a pain getting everything to fit properly and I assume the new wood was probably bought as a kit too.

    I can't say that I blame you one bit for going the steel route especially with the prior hack work on the wood. Your best bet is probably to try to find someone with a finished car to pull whatever measurements you need. Even for my T, I couldn't find any dimensioned drawings for the wood on the interwebs and it seems like that would be one of the easiest cars to find info on. Good luck
     

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