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Hot Rods Customising in the 1910s and 1920s

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  1. devilishdesigner
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    Here's an unusual topic, what does everyone know about car modification before the birth of 'hotrods'? I have a 1905 car body that appears to have been extensively modified in the 1910s to keep up with fashions and make it faster. It was converted from a 4 seater to 2, seating position lowered, and engine swapped from single cylinder to a twin.

    I only have the remains of the body now and as hard as I search, I haven't been able to find any images of modified cars in this era, despite the fact that I understand it was fairly common practice. Does anyone have any knowledge or photos of modified vehicles in this era?

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    Buff it out....
     
  3. rusty valley
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    as soon as there was a cheap car to be had, some kid would start hacking it up!! cool photo of two kids in an early and crude model T hotrod in todays vintage shots thread. do you know what brand you have there?
     
  4. devilishdesigner
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    It's an Australian Innes, which partook in one of the Dunlop Reliability Trial of 1905. Largely a rebadged Lacoste et Battmann. No real history after that until it was found modified in a field in 1958
     
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    Precious metal!
     
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    and for your entertainment, one of my favorites!
     
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    Had a dig through my book stash and was fascinated to find a section in the back of my 1924 Dykes encyclopedia of 'remodeling' car's, complete with suggested body improvements. 20200414_223626.jpg 20200414_223846.jpg 20200414_223802.jpg
     
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    those dykes manual's provide hours of fun just browsing thru. i like the "how to build a tow truck" instructions too. just need to find a big peirce arrow or stutz in the junk yard to get started on the build
     
  13. Now I know what to do with my Saxon "6".
     
  14. SR100
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    Motor Age magazine had a number of customized cars in its The Reader's Clearinghouse section. Not every issue had one, so you'll have to wade through a bunch of them. They are available online. Google Books has a better search function than Hathitrust.org. You can only see up through 1922 or so due to copyright. Here is a copy of an editor's reply to a couple of questions. They also published reader's cars on occasion.
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  15. GZ
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    Customizing was certainly a "thing" back in the early part of last century. The most common applications were made for the Model T's chassis since used cars were in such an abundance. Here are ads from the Kuempel Red-I-Kut body company as well as the only known surviving Kuempel-Ford speedster. Kuempel supplied the bodies in a kit form that could be "easily assembled into a fast and saucy speedster" with "just a few dollars worth of materials from your hardware store".


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  16. devilishdesigner
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    Picked up a TT frame in need of a little TLC. With a little chopping and tweaking I think it should work well as a frame. Can anyone confirm when channeling was first done? The frame is somewhat narrower than the body, providing a good opportunity.
     

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    Finally dismantled the TT frame so that I can sit the rails under the Innes body. Happy with the combination.
     
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