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Technical Custom painters, what brand clear?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 0NE BAD 51 MERC, Aug 11, 2017 at 10:50 AM.

  1. 0NE BAD 51 MERC
    Joined: Nov 12, 2010
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    Hi guys. what clears are you now using and what brand compounds are you having the best results with. Now that I am semi retired from the custom body business, I don't have access to the commercial suppliers that I use to have . The only source for paint here is the local Napa. Their Acme line is okay for a driver but not what I want for my Merc. Other wise the closest body shop supply place is 45 miles away. Before I go on line I would like your opinon's of what works best for you. and do you have a faveorite buffing compound or compounds. I mostly have used 3m. But they seem to change it a lot now and I do not get the results I use to. I usually start with 1200 and work up to 3000. Just looking for feed back. Larry
     
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  2. mikhett
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    I have had good luck using Southern Polyurethanes universal clear.They have an online forum also.BARRY the owner can be reached anytime for Tech assistance.Good Luck.
     
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  3. I like the DC4000 clear by Ppg.
    3m perfect-it compounds ex-1 , 2, 3 with corresponding foam pads.
    If the Ex just won't cut I'll use meguiers heavy cut first then on to the 3m stuff.



    This particular job was done as a flow-coat.

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  4. southcross2631
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    Martin- Senour clear is available from NAPA and works well. Holds up in Florida sun.
     
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  5. fastlayne
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    20160411_184842.jpg I've been using the ppg dcu 2021 or 2042 clears with dcx61 hardener and deltron reducers for years on all my high end builds. Just had one bronco featured in a magazine that I shot with dcu 2021. Buffs great too. Never had any combacks, fade or peel. I buff with 3m perfectit. I wetsand everything. To buff, Start with 1500, then 2000, then use 3m 3000 trizac pad on a d/a wet. Buff with black wool pad and #1 perfectit 3m purple bottle compound. Then move to your various foam pads with purple bottle/blue cap 3m machine polish and then to swirl remover/ hand wax. Fail proof for me so far.here's a pic of that Bronco. Took 2nd place at the bronco nat in Tennessee.
     
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  8. Paint_Rep
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    PPG DCU2021 or PPG D8152. Both are thick, ultra high gloss, easy to spray easy to buff, and very forgiving in any environment!! Use Slow Reducer and go to town!!


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  9. 0NE BAD 51 MERC
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    fastlayne.
    I also used ppg 2021 for years and it works great. My buff process is the same as yours with the 3m mat. A few other threads have mentioned using a coarse compound first , but to me it seem to defeat the effort of going to 3000. My problem now is getting the ppg. Since I closed my big shop in town because my source down in Madison does not deliver out to my "back woods home shop" So I have to either drive 90 miles round trip or order on line from someone. thanks for the replies. Larry
     
  10. SPI, stopped using PPG 10 years ago. Check out there website. They ship @ N/C to anywhere.
    Best clear I've used in the 40+ years of pullin the trigger
     
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  11. JimSibley
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    The acme710 and 720 clear is actually a good product. It buffs easy, lays nice and holds up very well. I know of a few gnrs contenders that were shot in it. Another good thing is it's ability to take a blend for repairs.
     
  12. gbones32coupe
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    If you do mail order eastwood has a cheap nice clear or medallion clear is also mail order it is also cheap and looks nice if you want to spend the big bucks standox clear is real nice or Nason clear is cheaper but also nice it is a dupont product. As for compound 3m med cut white wool pad and foam pad polish micro fine with a black foam pad

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  13. Torana68
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    anything form the House of Kolor catalogue to recommend?
     
  14. chopolds
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    I prefer House of Kolor, UC-1. If there's no graphics under it, the UFC is also good (it reflows what's under it, so if there are graphics, it will 'weep' some of the color downwards, as it dries)
    As for polishing, I've hated most available compounds available now, They seem to polish well, but when you wash or hand glaze over the paint, they seem to dull down. I've heard they put gloss enhancers in the compounds that wash off after a while. I've switched to Sonax compound and polish, and love them. 800 cut ( if there's significant peel) then 1000, 1500, then 3M's Tri-Zac 3000 grit on a DA, and then compound and polish.
     
  15. 0NE BAD 51 MERC
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    chopolds. My experience with current compound systems is the same as yours. Spend a week color sanding and buffing to a mirror finish only to have it "haze out" after awhile. Never heard of sonax products . Checked out their web site. Reasonably priced. Which compounds do you use? Larry
     
  16. VOODOO ROD & CUSTOM
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    S.P.I. and PRESTA.
    VR&C.
     
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  17. UNSHINED 2
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    If you want SPI, the Napa in Lake Hallie (Eau Claire) WI sells it. Sent to my home in Sparta next day, free delivery. Scott is very helpful and very knowledgeable with all SPI products....
     
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  18. coilover
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    The designs on the fenders and top are reflections of the overhead lights.
     
  19. chopolds
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    Wow, their website is a mass of confusion! I didn't even see what I use. I use CutMax for compound, and Perfect Finish for polishing. Got them on either Amazon, or AutoGeek.
     
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  20. 0NE BAD 51 MERC
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    Unshine 2 I actually work for the Napa in Portage on Sundays part time, the owner is a buddy of mine, so I will get the contact info for your source and give them a call . They can transfer it down through the distribution centers. If I like it I may convince Lon to stock also. Larry
     
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  21. OLDSMAN
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    I use DuPont now Axlta products nothing better in my estimation
     

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