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custom HF bead roller dies... interest?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by FiddyFour, Apr 12, 2011.

  1. FiddyFour
    Joined: Dec 31, 2004
    Posts: 9,010


    greetings and hallucinations

    i'm in the process of making a set of dies for the infamous HF bead roller. one set for me for now, but if there would be interest, i could make a larger run of them.

    what profiles would you guys be interested in?

    let me know, and if the interest is there, i'll make a large run of them, various profiles etc.

  2. Koz
    Joined: May 5, 2008
    Posts: 2,607


    Put me down for a set of tipping dies. Very difficult to get for the cheapie machines.
  3. FiddyFour
    Joined: Dec 31, 2004
    Posts: 9,010


    kinda thought those would be ones that guys would want...
  4. plym49
    Joined: Aug 9, 2008
    Posts: 2,803

    from Earth

    count me in, if price is of this earth

  5. bct
    Joined: Apr 4, 2005
    Posts: 3,114


    cut one flange off a 2" pulley and use hockey puck material (or anything soft and durable) for the bottom...
  6. i would like some dies to make the bead on ford bodys
  7. nowaxn5
    Joined: Apr 15, 2007
    Posts: 816


    Ok. What are tipping dies?
  8. 41fred207
    Joined: Feb 7, 2011
    Posts: 103


    louver dies!! i have a Woodward Fab roller. not sure if h/f dies are inter-changable.
  9. Blue One
    Joined: Feb 6, 2010
    Posts: 11,389

    Blue One
    from Alberta

    Dies for forming different radius grooves and making edge bends with a radius.

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  10. Blue One
    Joined: Feb 6, 2010
    Posts: 11,389

    Blue One
    from Alberta

    Tipping dies like the ones above and louver dies too. I have a Magnum bead rolller.
  11. I'd be interested in a set of tipping dies
  12. man-a-fre
    Joined: Apr 13, 2005
    Posts: 1,311


    30-31 ford lower bead die
  13. FiddyFour
    Joined: Dec 31, 2004
    Posts: 9,010


    ok... louver dies and tipping dies...

    the tipping dies i'm going to make are going to be a bit less expensive than the hoosier sets...

    i'm thinking around $45 for a two piece set of tipping dies. i'll look into the louver dies also

    as for the dies to make beltline reveals for fords... yes, i can look into them as well.
  14. FiddyFour
    Joined: Dec 31, 2004
    Posts: 9,010


    all i would need is the specs on the dies you'd need, and i dont see a problem making those as well.
  15. EXACTLY!!! I'll take a set of these too!!! Not sure how many years used the same profile - I need a set to make the narrow (read roadster/phaeton/3W) '32 body bead. If you need a sample profile I can make one up and e-mail it to you. I've got a Williams Lowbuck bead roller - pretty sure they're the same fit.

  16. FiddyFour
    Joined: Dec 31, 2004
    Posts: 9,010


    well, the response to this is kinda, well, over the top... :eek: :D :cool:
    and it seems i'm going to be busy making HF roller dies VERY soonish.

    the answer to about 99% of the questions like below is "yes"

    all i would need is a sample of the bead profile you want, and i should be able to turn a set of dies to re-create it. for body/reveal lines, i'd need either a sample piece cut out of a bad panel, a scaled CAD drawing ( .DWF or the like) or an exact measured drawing of the profile that i can print out and make a pattern from.

    so far, the short list of dies i have planned are below.

    1: tipping dies.
    2: body/reveal dies.
    3: wide ford floor pan bead dies.
    4: louver dies.
    5: radius/roundover dies.

    all of the dies will be turned by yours truly then case hardened, polished and ready to go to work.

    i am in the beginning stages of "tooling up" to make these, and a few other HF metal working tools bits and pieces. i should have some of the basic die sets ready to ship by the middle/end of may, and i should have prices for those sets soon as well. custom profiles other than the ones listed here, PM me and we'll see what can be done.

    i have been asked, and the answer is NO!!!. i will NOT take anyone's hard earned money before i have the tooling and machines set up to produce these pieces, and i have the stuff you want in my hands and ready to ship to you... i am not Preston Tucker.

    i have also contacted Ryan about becoming an alliance vendor. if it makes sense to both Ryan and myself, members would get some sort of a "good deal" on all this as well.

  17. gsport
    Joined: Jul 16, 2009
    Posts: 677


    geeee... i thought i was going to read about another dead HF tool
  18. I'd like to Have a set like this BUT with a modular configuration . The main dies with change able ends so I could adjust the amount of step.
    Dies for my roller start with 3" round stock and 1" keyed hole
  19. red baron
    Joined: Jun 2, 2007
    Posts: 596

    red baron
    from o'side

    yes I would love dies for the bead roller!!
  20. FiddyFour
    Joined: Dec 31, 2004
    Posts: 9,010


    shameless bump for the morning croud. . .
  21. toreadorxlt
    Joined: Feb 27, 2008
    Posts: 733

    from Nashua, NH

    id be all over a set of tipping dies
  22. onedge
    Joined: May 25, 2006
    Posts: 1,000


    Sounds good to me also.
  23. FiddyFour
    Joined: Dec 31, 2004
    Posts: 9,010


    just a quick update...

    it looks like i'm going to (finally) take the plunge and try my hand at being my own boss. some of you know, i got messed up in an accident at work just about two years ago, and my back has been in constant pain since after the operation in june of 2009. my court hearing (the company denied the work comp claim) was in november, and i just got the notice in the mail last friday that i had won. they can still appeal, but my lawyer does not think they will... the judgement is too sound. at any rate, i should be getting my settlement $ before may 5th, which leads me to the next statement.

    i'm going to be buying a few machines within the next month and a half, and should be turning these things shortly after. once i have the lathe, mill and tooling installed in my shop out back here, i'll let everyone know that i'll begin taking pre-orders to be sold and shipped as they are ready. first come, first served, but i'll let you all know when i'm ready.

    again, i really appreciate all the replies, PMs and email interest i have gotten about this, and the kind words some of you have already said to me as well.

    thanks again, Traves
  24. FiddyFour
    Joined: Dec 31, 2004
    Posts: 9,010



    i've gotten the Alliance Vendor application from Ryan (thanks Ryan!) and i'm filling it out as we speak. IF and thats a big if Ryan approves it, i will be giving a pretty decent HAMB alliance discount to members of the alliance... Ryan, if you're watching, i'm filling it out NOW, not that you figure i forgot! lol
  25. DRD57
    Joined: Mar 5, 2001
    Posts: 4,111


    I'm interested in some of these.
  26. Thirdyfivepickup
    Joined: Nov 5, 2002
    Posts: 6,093


    Glad to hear they ruled in your favor. Back problems suck ass.
  27. Brad54
    Joined: Apr 15, 2004
    Posts: 6,021

    from Atl Ga

    Besides a set of tipping dies, a set of edge-rolling dies to round the edge over a piece of wire (like early Ford fenders have) would be good.

    Will you be hardening them?

    I just did a story with a guy, and he said one of the problems with the HF dies is that they're not super hard like dies from Mittler Brothers or Pro Tools, and if they get a nick in them, they'll transfer that nick.

    And congrats on going into business yourself!
    You need the right mindset now: You're "a business man." NOT just a guy who is making parts in his shop out back. BIG difference in mindset... and the way you do things after that.

  28. Ruiner
    Joined: May 17, 2004
    Posts: 4,141


    Traves, when did you become a machinist? :p...good to hear you're going into business and the settlement worked in your of luck to you bro...

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