Register now to get rid of these ads!

Hot Rods Current TJ Upholstery Information

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by klawockvet, Feb 5, 2020.

  1. magoozi
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 1,722

    magoozi
    Member
    from san diego

    The horse shit is all bullshit;
    In the thirties and forties, furniture was stuffed with horse hair or cotton.
    Car seats were mostly steel springs and covered in burlap and then covered with cotton.
    There was a couple of large sofa factories in Tijuana and and a lot of the upholstery guys had worked there as kids, so they had a lot of expreriance sewing and cutting patterns and that in turn created a large work pool for doing car upholstery.
    In the late 50's foam was invented so horse hair became obsolete and a lot of the surplus from the furniture factories were sold to the upholstery shops.
    So where did the "horse shit " story come from ?
    Well either some body ripped a fart and crapped there horse hair stuffed seat or the more logical explation is this; In the late 60's and 70's , one of the curio shops had the novel idea of rewrapping the cheap 10 cents a pack Mexican cigarettes and calling them horse shit cigarettes as a novelty and joke. And pretty much if you ever smoked one , that's what they tasted like. They had no filters and since they came from Mexico city, they were always stale and dry.
     
    Jay71, kidcampbell71, brad2v and 9 others like this.
  2. Driver50x
    Joined: May 5, 2014
    Posts: 44

    Driver50x
    Member

    That’s a great looking car. Thanks for sharing a real TJ story with us.
     
    magoozi and 6-bangertim like this.
  3. 6-bangertim
    Joined: Oct 3, 2011
    Posts: 366

    6-bangertim
    Member
    from California

    I was a kid the first time I saw horseshit cigaretts - 'Not a Fart in the Pack' the package proclaimed, laffed my little heinie off!

    Without question, Champion's work looks BITCHIN, for an amazing price! Pretty cool knowing there are a few craftsman down there carrying on a tradition...
     
    Last edited: Feb 17, 2020
    Special Ed and magoozi like this.
  4. magoozi
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 1,722

    magoozi
    Member
    from san diego

    The birth of the T.J. tuck and roll;
    Tijuana's founders for the most part
    We're European immigrants and the Jewish communities started opening curio shops in the 1920's.
    They would sell Mexican trinkets, gold and silver and onix jewelry, shoes and boots made in the southern states of Mexico and they started making leather purses,bags and jackets.
    The Weizman family started bringing
    Up leather hides from Guadalajara and Guanajuato.This in turn created another large pool of semesters and pattern cutters and leather scraps.
    Luxury cars from the 30's had large pleats and guys with hot rods and customs wanted this look.
    Some of the seimsters could buy the leather scraps for cheap and this gave birth to the original tuck and roll.
    Each pleat was sewn into individual pockets and stuffed with cotton with a wooden paddle and then sewn on to a cotton material. The narrower the pleat the more you could take advantage of the leather scraps and this gave birth to the upholstery shops in Tijuana.
    In the 40's ,the pleats were 3 inches wide, in the early fifties 2 and half inches wide and by the late fifties , pleats were two and one and half inches wide, so when doing a traditional hot rod or custom, it's important to do your interior period correct.
    Now days , most shops just sew the pleats on to the foam and is a simulated tuck and roll, the real deal is labor intensive and very few shops know how to do it.
    I'll try to post some pictures so you guys can see the difference.
    On Dave's car, I choosed a design off a 57 T-bird and the door panels are simular to original
     
    Jay71, kidcampbell71, KKrod and 8 others like this.
  5. flatheadpete
    Joined: Oct 29, 2003
    Posts: 9,578

    flatheadpete
    Member
    from Burton, MI

    Looks great! Glad you had a good experience.
     
    magoozi likes this.
  6. oldandkrusty
    Joined: Oct 8, 2002
    Posts: 2,093

    oldandkrusty
    Member

    Well, this isn't quite an Tijuana upholstery story, but it does relate as my wife and I went there back in the early '90's to see if we could buy some leather which we were going to use to upholster our '33 Buick 90 Series Victoria. We had been to Mexico many times before and had always had a good experience, so we said, let's go and see what we can find. We used the logic that back then you could not pass a shop on Ave. Revolucion without see leather garments of every description. Ergo, lots of leather so there must be a place where we can find a shop that just sells leather hides. So, we started our investigation, going from one shop to the next and asking where their leather came from? Most of the shops had people right there who would custom make for you any jacket you might want.

    The proprietors were very friendly and told us about this place or that place to go to in order to get what we needed. We finally wound up at Reuben Gold's place, a store that sold nothing but leather suitable for use in upholstery. I had never seen so many hides, thousands upon thousands of them, in just about any color you could imagine. We decided on a medium gray and Reuben showed us stack after stack of the gray color palette we wanted. We picked the hides we wanted and after some discussion we bought 10 half-hides as we were going to take the hides back to Rochester where we were going to have the work done. Reuben assured us that given the information about the car;s size, seat description, etc., that the 10 half-hides would be sufficient.

    When we told him that we were taking the hides back to NY, he broke out in a huge smile and told us that was funny as the hides had come to him from Gloversville, NY! We really had a good laugh over that.

    We then rolled up the hides, I slung them over my shoulder and we took a cab back to the border. We got out, got in the border crossing line, told the agent what we had purchased in Mexico, got a "welcome home" from the agent and walked to the parking lot where we had left our car, got in and were back at the hotel within minutes. Altogether, a great day. Oh, and made even better by the fact that we got all that leather, enough to do the entire interior of our Buick, including the trunk, for 400 Yankee bucks!

    All together a wonderful experience. However, I will say we have been back to Tijuana several times since then and the complexion of the city has definitely changed. To our minds, not for the good. However, I just wanted to relate a story of Tijuana with a happy ending.
     
  7. magoozi
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 1,722

    magoozi
    Member
    from san diego

     
  8. magoozi
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 1,722

    magoozi
    Member
    from san diego

    Well I thought I had heard it all, that our climate has changed, we are lucky to get a few days a year that get above 90 degress.For the most part ,It's in the seventies all year long
     
    kidcampbell71 likes this.
  9. magoozi
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 1,722

    magoozi
    Member
    from san diego

    the governor had it burned done in the late 60's
     
    kidcampbell71 likes this.
  10. magoozi
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 1,722

    magoozi
    Member
    from san diego

    Never bring a gun into mexico,you will do more time than if they caught you with a truck full of drugs
     
  11. Flathead Dave
    Joined: Mar 21, 2014
    Posts: 2,610

    Flathead Dave
    ALLIANCE MEMBER
    from So. Cal.

    Haven't been to TJ since 1987 and will never step foot in TJ again.
    In fact, I would never step foot in mexico, either.
     
  12. Sometimes it's nice to be corrected, or straightened out. Thanks Miguel and Klaw. :)
     
    Special Ed, stanlow69 and magoozi like this.
  13. magoozi
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 1,722

    magoozi
    Member
    from san diego

    Yes, as a kid I worked at a Big Boy Restaurant in Tijuana, In the last few
    Years , they have open restaurants with cuisine from all over the world.
    This has replaced the curio shops and a lot of tourists come down just for dinner.
     
    Special Ed and stanlow69 like this.
  14. klawockvet
    Joined: May 1, 2012
    Posts: 344

    klawockvet
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Here is a picture of the Taco Stand where we ate just before heading back to the states.
     
  15. klawockvet
    Joined: May 1, 2012
    Posts: 344

    klawockvet
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Photo didn't load the first time. Here's the second try. Hopefully Miguel will provide some history. Original Taco Stand.jpg
     
  16. klawockvet
    Joined: May 1, 2012
    Posts: 344

    klawockvet
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    These photos should dispel the quality of the material BS. Top grade marine vinyl and stitching. Maybe Miguel will chime in with the history of TJ Upholstery. Marine Vinyl.jpg Pleat Backing.jpg Solid foam replacing springs.jpg
     
    Jay71, brad2v, Texas57 and 2 others like this.
  17. magoozi
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 1,722

    magoozi
    Member
    from san diego

    This was the first carne asada taco stand in Tijuana and it's been there since 1960, so why is it good ; Tijuana still has old school butcher shops and the meat is from young free range cattle which is slaughtered fresh every day and the corn tortillas are fresh too with no preservatives.
    The hot sause is made right there ,no can crapp down here.
     
  18. magoozi
    Joined: May 20, 2009
    Posts: 1,722

    magoozi
    Member
    from san diego

    Still looking for the horse shit stuffing.
    The marine naulgahyde and the foam is from the state's, if you go with leather,it's from Guanajuato and Guadalajara and is much cheaper than the states.
     
    brad2v, Texas57 and Special Ed like this.
  19. TJ is nothing that most of the guys on here are used too. I went several times for cheap booze and college girls while in the Corps, and it was fun. Had young kids trying to sell me weed. Early 2000's.

    Now, there is no way in hell you would catch me there. Factor in that your bringing a "look at me" car, you will get double the attention. Drugs, violence, and a corrupt police force could lead to a very bad trip.

    Sometimes you've got to risk it for the biscuit....
     
  20. 1fastbyrd
    Joined: Nov 12, 2005
    Posts: 44

    1fastbyrd
    Member

    I just returned from Tijuana Monday. Yes the border crossing sucked, it was a holiday weekend. I have traveled to Mexico several times over the years. It is as safe as you make it in fact I have driven from Tijuana to Loreto on highway 1. Great place to visit and great food.
     
    Special Ed likes this.
  21. jimmy six
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
    Posts: 5,413

    jimmy six
    Member

    As long as the seams are straight and the pleats line up I would be happy. I’ve seen jobs here in the states where they don’t and in a car with vertical pleats it’s the first thing I look at.
     
    Texas57 and klawockvet like this.
  22. Does anybody know if there are upholstery shops in the Texas border towns similar to TJ? I've heard about California guys going to TJ for upholstery since I was a kid.....not sure if the same applied to more eastern border towns.
     
  23. xtralow
    Joined: Nov 12, 2004
    Posts: 1,188

    xtralow
    Member
    from So Cal

    I was curious about the same when I drove through the El Paso Tx area a couple times last year, the border is right there next to El Paso ....
     
  24. The Shift Wizard
    Joined: Jan 10, 2017
    Posts: 1,762

    The Shift Wizard
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    I've been following this thread with interest and it has got me thinking. I had a leather sectional made 30 years ago, when I was still single. When my wife and I got married 25 years ago, we sold both our homes and got one together. The sectional wound up in the media loft deal so no problem for a number of years. Retiring from Houston to the TX Hill country was the latest leapfrog for the sectional. We agreed the new place would be ranch style furnished but She Who Must Be Obeyed insisted on the classic couch/love seat/fat chair in the liv-fam room and the sectional is crammed in the study. Bottom line, I'm thinking about selling said sectional.
    The leather is full thick hide, not a split with a reground finish or bi-cast coated. You could make belts from it. The hassle of selling and maybe settling for less than $1000, leaves me thinking of salvaging all the leather and dumping the stuffing, frame, springs. I don't like the oyster color interior done by the PO of my '50 Chevy truck. Too plain is another reason. The leather happens to be the color I DO want. (It's slightly more Chestnut Brown than the orangy camera flash effect.) I'm really thinking this is a no brainer for me.
    Note the large pieces of leather all around the back.........

    006.JPG panel-truck-36.jpg panel-truck-32.jpg
    In East and Central Texas, we call the border trip, "Going to the valley". I don't have a clue who or where to locate service there, but I hear of a Mexican ex-patriate family the next town over from me that is highly recommended. I have noooo problems with spending my money locally.
    ..
     
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2020
  25. 1946caddy
    Joined: Dec 18, 2013
    Posts: 1,518

    1946caddy
    Member
    from washington

    Salamander Taco's ?
     
  26. Gman0046
    Joined: Jul 24, 2005
    Posts: 5,845

    Gman0046
    Member

    For those of you going to the NSRA Nats, in Middletown Kentucky we have Señor Iguanas restaurant. Best Iguana I've ever had. Not sure they have Salamander tacos.
     
  27. 51504bat
    Joined: May 22, 2010
    Posts: 1,421

    51504bat
    ALLIANCE MEMBER

    Or Canada, either.
     

Share This Page

Register now to get rid of these ads!

Archive

Copyright © 1995-2020 The Jalopy Journal: Steal our stuff, we'll kick your teeth in. Terms of Service. Privacy Policy.

Atomic Industry
Forum software by XenForo™ ©2010-2014 XenForo Ltd.