The Jalopy Journal
Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by falcongeorge, Jun 22, 2011.
I've seen this one in person at the "Cruise" a number of times.....
Probably reference to the last crankshaft.
From Edmonton AB., "recently" found and restored.
What are they using for a steering box on this one ^^^?
Don’t know for sure but Crossley or Ross steering boxes were commonly used for center steer driver positions.
Bob Ford Dick Brennan
The car has a VW Bug frontend along with the VW Bug steering box. The VW box is mounted to the frontend stock from VW. http://cacklefest.com/Outcast.shtml
The attached cacklefest story says the original steering box was Morris but an aftermarket box was used for the restoration. It looks like maybe a Stilleto to me.
The Frenchtown Flyer, I guess I missed the Morris Minor Rack and and figured it had the VW steering box in place since the frontend was VW. I wonder why they used that and not the VW box? It probably would have handled better with the VW box.
Would it be wrong to put a roadster body on a chassis like this?
Do you mean a short wheelbase chassis like the Outcast?
Of course not, think Marcellus & Borsch, or Guasco’s Pure Hell.
Yes 100 inch or a little over wheel base .
There have been altered roadsters built with even less than 100" w.b. Check out this BBC blue roadster I ran against.
Color Me Gone II
I have a 61 MGA that have plans to build a chassis for. I like the idea of a altered but not sure if that would be the proper chassis for this body.
saltflats, build it!! there have been several mg's built into altereds over the years. there can never be to many altereds!!!
American V8 + MGA = A/MSP ! (or altered if center steered). Cool
On loan to The Henry Ford, Dearborn MI.
What is not to like about a well built Hemi motor, especially with a lot of local So Cal history behind the motor and truck. Charlie Ettien’s bright yellow and black, 56 Ford Pickup truck was one of the most famous pickup trucks from back in those early days in So Cal. Why? It had a big blown Hemi motor under the hood. No one noticed it until it made a run and people were amazed. Then the comments flowed like melted butter… What was that? Why is all of the painter stuff still in the back of the truck? Is it in the Gas Coupe and Sedan Class? What motor does it have? All valid questions for the time.
1959 Lions Dragstrip
Charlie Ettien on right side of staging lane
When people did go into the Lions Dragstrip Pits area, then they would have seen the huge supercharged Hemi motor in the compartment and heard the sound it made up close. Many times, the 1956 yellow Ford truck ran with all of the painting equipment in the back. Why? Charlie Ettien was a painter by trade and would come to Lion’s Dragstrip straight from work or before work on a Saturday. Self-employed allowed different hours for different things.
The theory was more weight for more traction. But, other times, the bed was empty and the ladder/pipes/tubes rack was taken off and the truck ran without it.
It was lined up vs another powerful 671 supercharged El Camino at Lions. Sorry, no film of the race.
Street driven to and prepped and ready at the Lions Dragstrip Museum display.
Full So Cal street driving without the painter’s rack and tools.
A blown Chrysler engine with an automatic transmission used over 100,000 miles of daily driving, what an amazing feat. A 5000+ lbs. truck slated for C/Gas... (Our 671, SBC, 40 Willys rivalry/competition in the making... including the idea of extra weight in the rear to make the class rules.)
This was the epitome of a daily driver, weekend drag racer. Drive to work, then drive to the race track, make a few runs with everything in the back and then prep for the eliminations. As well as stopping at the paint supply store for more paint and accessories!
Dandy Dick Landy
TV Tommy Ivo CORRECTION: Build proudly by @dreracecar
2017 original Lion's Dragstrip Museum Grand Opening, afternoon "Cacklefest"
"Currently Jon Rowley and Green Monster #5 tour the country, much to the enjoyment of all who have the pleasure of meeting both Jon and his scary cool friend."
Ever since my brother and I fought over who was going to read the local Drag News paper first, we wanted to know what was going on elsewhere in the USA. We were always So Cal local drag race oriented, having a house located about a mile or two away from Lion’s Dragstrip. Our first house was a block away from the Southern end of the dragstrip. Our second house was approximately 2 miles away near an elementary school.
But, once after separating the Drag News paper, I usually got the section that had the Midwest or Texas section of the paper. So, I was introduced to the fast drag racing scene at those two area places. The race cars were similar to the So Cal builds, but a little different. The trends, it seemed to us, to start in So Cal and then spread out across the USA as the times and speeds got better.
One of the most unusual race cars was an aircraft powered design called The Green Monster. The name in itself was hilarious. It was like a giant, green, sleek airplane without wings. Instantly we were intrigued like all kids interested in drag racing. Was it fast? Can it beat the real drag race cars out West?
By 1959, we had read the exploits of the series of green monsters racing in the Midwest. But never out west where we were located. All doubts were put to rest when it was announced that the “Green Monster” was headed out West. Since most of the Green Monster race vehicles looked the same, we usually bypassed the specific numbers on each one.
What we got to see was the number 11 version and it was a stunning race car. Very unusual to say the least. The runs started out slow, but once in motion, it just took off… like an airplane.
1959 number 11 Green Monster total
“The Arfons team created a profusion of Green Monsters during the 1950s including the Baloney Slicer; Monster #4, a sidewinder dragster; Monster #6 which often raced Monster #5 and a series of Monster editions up to #11. Number 11 was probably the best running of all the cars, but by the time of its performance, aircraft-powered dragsters were relegated to the exhibition classification.”
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