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Technical Curious Thermostat question

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dkmc, Jul 27, 2017.

  1. On some Thermostats that have the small vent hole, they also have a rivet or some sort of metal 'widget' in the hole. Why? Why put the hole there then partly block it?

    Also, I've noticed if I drill even just one small vent hole, say 3/32" in a thermostat in a Chevy, when it's really cold, 10deg or less, the engine seems to take a lot longer to warm up
    than when there is no vent hole. Anybody else notice that?
     
  2. reverb2000
    Joined: Apr 17, 2005
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    from Houston TX

    The hole is there to prevent a sudden surge of coolant and the engine cooling off too much. By allowing a small amount to go by the engine will heat up at a constant rate. People have been doing this forever, but some engine manufacturers including Kubota are acting like this is a new idea

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  3. squirrel
    Joined: Sep 23, 2004
    Posts: 44,018

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    Perhaps the rivet is a check valve? or it might let air through quickly, but not coolant?

    Yeah, it does not take much coolant flow to keep an engine cool at really cold outside temps.
     
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  4. I thought the hole was there to vent air when you're filling it initially?
    At any rate, I drilled a 3/32 hole, and then put a cotter pin in it to restrict it....why.....I really don't know.


     
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  5. The wiggler lets air thru upon filling.
    Once it sees water pressure the wiggler restricts the flow thru the hole.

    I thought I'd be smart and drill a tiny hole my wife's Thermostat on here late model. It's a pain to bleed and burp the air on it. Well that solved the bleed and burp issue so well I did it to my nieces car too. They both soon thru a trouble code that the engine was taking too long to warm up.

    SOOO , it's 100 proof that hole and the coolant flow thru it makes it take longer to warm up.
     
  6. Ha! Damn computers...
    But wow that's amazing proof! I wondered if it was my imagination.
    Hard to believe such a small hole could make the difference.
    I better use a rivet or a nail instead of a cotter pin, so they will seal off.

     
  7. Why not get one with the wiggler?
     
  8. Well,
    1. Forgot about the wiggler.
    2. It's not for a car so the auto parts people (Advance) are clueless.
    I took in the water neck to get a (thermostat) gasket, and the guy put the casting number on the neck in
    the computer....idiot. And that was after I told him it was John Deere.
    3. Already got the one without it, and drilled the hole.
    I could ask at NAPA, I didn't install this one yet.

     
  9. There's just a few different sizes of thermostats.
     
  10. Engine man
    Joined: Jan 30, 2011
    Posts: 3,476

    Engine man
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    from Wisconsin

    I've always used a 1/16 inch bit and never had a problem. Air goes through a 1/16 hole easily but not as much water will go through. Even if it takes a few minutes for the air to go through, it isn't a problem. A smaller hole would work too but 1/16 is the smallest bit in most sets.
     

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