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Projects CONVERTING A 1933 FORD FOUR DOOR SEDAN INTO A 5 WINDOW

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by H-O-O-V-E-R, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. Fantastic thread! You guys are metal magicians.
    Bob
     
  2. milkweed
    Joined: Nov 21, 2006
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    milkweed
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    from SLC UT

    Seen it today..it looks good...
     
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  3. H-O-O-V-E-R
    Joined: Aug 10, 2017
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

    Doing some rust repair before trying to fit the back on. IMG_7699.JPG IMG_7700.JPG IMG_7701.JPG IMG_7702.JPG IMG_7722.JPG IMG_7724.JPG IMG_7729.JPG IMG_7730.JPG IMG_7731.JPG

    The top of the trunk does not fit correctly yet, I will be cutting out the flange above the trunk and putting a new one in to get the gaps perfect.
     

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  4. H-O-O-V-E-R
    Joined: Aug 10, 2017
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

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    Put in cross bracing for the quarter panels to keep the gaps right.
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    Got some new parts in, wide fives and some 36 rear ends. Would love to get my hands on some 18 inch wide fives. I have a pair of open wide five drums, the star pattern style, need two more.

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    Found that the cross bracing wasn't sturdy enough, with all the fitting of the 5 widow top it kept want to pull the quarters in. I put a bar across the top of the trunk to keep them from separating. Seemed to do the trick!
     

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  5. H-O-O-V-E-R
    Joined: Aug 10, 2017
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

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    Cross brace on top of panels
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    Making sure to keep the lines and gaps to exact 5 window specs.
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    Needed a little help from a tie down to keep it positioned right.
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    Getting the quarters trimmed down to get ready for final placement.
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    Tacked in place

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    Final weld. It took me two weeks and a lot of hours just to get the top positioned right to where it can be welded in place. The top was taken on and off multiple times. The trunk is also just sitting inside not positioned correctly so it looks a little off and goofy. Just need to find 33/34 hinges to get it right.
     

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  6. H-O-O-V-E-R
    Joined: Aug 10, 2017
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

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    Had to take a section out of the old sedan c pillar to graft into the b pillar of the damaged 5 widow
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    Mocking up the graft.
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    Was able to get my mitts on an original 5 widow door to get exact specs so I can weld the window tops back on.

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    Still need to planish the welds to get get metal perfectly smooth.
     
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  7. H-O-O-V-E-R
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

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    This is where I think a lot of guys who do conversions come up short. Nailing the lines while grafting the two roofs together is critical. It's gonna take a lot of clamps to get it right. This part has also taken a couple of week of tinkering and manipulating pieces to get them to look perfect and fit.


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    The lines above the door are coming together.
     

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  8. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
    Posts: 13,182

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    $150 for that door! Holy shit, that was a score.

    My '33 still had issues at the B pillar with alignment when I sold it. It wasn't done and I'm sure those things are all fixable, but I agree, that's a really tricky spot to get right.
     
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  9. H-O-O-V-E-R
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

    The door still has the price on it from many many years ago, wish they were still that cheap! It was borrowed from a friend.
     
  10. H-O-O-V-E-R
    Joined: Aug 10, 2017
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

    I do still have have one side all the way intact and don't think I will have a use for it. Message me!
     
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  11. dwollam
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    Simply Amazing! Good job.

    Dave
     
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  12. Chucky
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    You're doing a great job!
     
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  13. He had me on that one also!
    At least he could borrow one for mock-up

    I must say, you have done a great job with this and thanks for the photos.
     
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  14. AULIZ
    Joined: Oct 28, 2005
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    Great job !
     
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  15. Amazing work. HRP
     
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  16. jackalope
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    Great job! Following this build.


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  17. The37Kid
    Joined: Apr 30, 2004
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    Looks great, thanks for the update.

    Bob
     
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  18. spurgeonforge
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    One of my favorite builds.
     
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  19. H-O-O-V-E-R
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

    I appreciate all of the support and kind words!
     
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  20. edwardlloyd
    Joined: Aug 2, 2003
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    from Germany

    If anything this thread puts me off attempting such a conversion. Hats off to you though.

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  21. Your metal work skills and photos are amazing. Like what you are doing.
     
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  22. duncan
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    Great job, good save.
     
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  23. WP38
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    Great job what type of welder are you using?
     
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  24. H-O-O-V-E-R
    Joined: Aug 10, 2017
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

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    Grafting the roofs together. Trying to get the crown and lines perfect.

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    This angle is looking straight down on the "sunroof" the five window doesn't want to match up exactly with the sedan roof. I will end up cutting out the corner to match it.

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    The big contraption on top of the car has the original crown of a five window, I am using it to help match my roof while it gets tacked.

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  25. Looking good! Thanks for sharing the details on how you are making the roof line match up.
     
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  26. 56 Dodge Pickup
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    That is looking really good and that is one cool angle finder, this is quality build Hobo Jim
     
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  27. Outback
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    Outback
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    Wow. loving your work, a belated welcome to the HAMB & thanks for taking us on the ride! :D
     
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  28. el Roach
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    WOW ! Great work!
     
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  29. catdad49
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    Love the adjustable template thingie( sorry for the technical term)! How about a little how-to with a materials list? Thanks for sharing this with all the great pictures.
     
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  30. spurgeonforge
    Joined: Oct 18, 2013
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    Wow! Awesome work!
     
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