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Projects CONVERTING A 1933 FORD FOUR DOOR SEDAN INTO A 5 WINDOW

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by H-O-O-V-E-R, Aug 10, 2017.

  1. H-O-O-V-E-R
    Joined: Aug 10, 2017
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

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    Fitting the quarter panels on the car...first we cut out a linear section of the b pillar, cut the front end of the quarter panel off then tacked it into place. Then fitted the quarter panel and scored where the two overlapped. Cut and weld. Turned out great.
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    Fitted the back end together and welded it into place.

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    You can see in this image where the quarter panel was welded into the b pillar. All gaps and surfaces matched perfectly.
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    You can see where I welded and then grinder smooth.
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    This picture above is of the drivers side.
    Where the quarter panel was welded into the b pillar and ground smooth.
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    Was able to find a 33 grill! Need some tweaking but will work.

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    Louvered the hood, you can see it needs a little tlc.

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    Roof insert pounded out and louvered. Ready to be fitted, will be able to use Chris's new flanging machine he is making to turn the flange with ease.

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    Today I cleko'd the door shut in preparation for cutting the original sedan door down where it will be the exact same as the original 5 window door. With this fastener in place I will be able to take the top hinge out and work with the door and it will not put extra stress on the bottom hinges.
     
  2. Gavin Tittle
    Joined: Aug 15, 2017
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    Wow, what a fantastic show of skill! thanks for sharing.
     
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  3. rpm56
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    Real nice work!
     
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  4. el Roach
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    Great job!
     
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  5. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
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    Looks great, I'm subscribed! I have a '34 4 door and a collection of pieces to build the exact same thing.

    Are you willing to sell what's left of those coupe quarters? Because I'd be very interested in those. Not sure where you're located but the leftovers could be cut into smaller pieces if it needs to be shipped. It would further my project a bunch. Thanks either way!
     
  6. Very interesting project, and great skill on display.


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  7. Pete
    Joined: Mar 8, 2001
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    Great project, love the detailed pics too.
     
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  8. sloppy jalopies
    Joined: Jun 29, 2015
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    ditto on the pix... I like the clecos holding the door gap and beltline alignment... good stuff.
     
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  9. waxhead
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    Outstanding work.
     
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  10. oldfordtin
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    Amazing great work
     
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  11. H-O-O-V-E-R
    Joined: Aug 10, 2017
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

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    Alright! Back at it! Cut the b pillars! image.jpeg
    Taped off and cut 1 inch out of the window, only on the hinge side does this need to be done. I actually ended up cutting the whole top of the Window off because I am going to chop it and it will just get in the way.

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    Measured the b pillars and taped them off as level as I could. Did this the same to the donor 5 window piece as well. Measuring both off of the belt line should give me an acurate spot to cut.

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    I welded this piece above the trunk in before we found the 5 window donor. Had to cut it back out. Will end up needing to weld some back in if the 5 window doesn't meet up perfectly.

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    This is just loosely payed on top. Will cut and fit more and more to get it into its position as much as possible.

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    This side is gonna take some work and rebuilding.

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    Thanks for all of the kind words and support!!!
     
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  12. H-O-O-V-E-R
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

    Thank you! Sorry, I told the guy we bought it from as part of the deal we would give him the leftovers. Would love to see the 5 window you are building!
     
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  13. dodored
    Joined: Feb 5, 2007
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    from Concord NC

    Great work! Lots of hours for sure. I am working on a 5W as well and feel the struggle. Subscribed.
     

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  14. H-O-O-V-E-R
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

    we both have a long way to go! You have some skills man, next thing you know you will be driving it down to the beach with your surfboard! Keep it up brother!
     
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  15. Squablow
    Joined: Apr 26, 2005
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    Fair enough, thanks for letting me know.

    This is the '33 I have stuck together, didn't have much for quarters on this one so it's pretty rough but I did what I could with what I had, now I have a nicer '34 to start with so this one is getting sold off and I'll do the '34, same thing, starting with a 4 door sedan. I look forward to seeing yours come together, it's already looking good! I'm jealous of that roof section!

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    This is what I started with. It does have doors, just not on there when these pics were taken. I saved the floor out of this '33 to use in my '34, it was surprisingly decent!

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  16. King ford
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    Tramps like us ...baby we were born to run! Nice work,....good taste in tunes
     
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  17. dodored
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    Actually I finished that car and am working on another that was not so bad. The black car is the finished product.

    It is an inspiration the work you are doing. I had often thought about doing that, but never came up with the pieces to pull it off. (32 4door to coupe)
     

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  18. H-O-O-V-E-R
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    Will score the 5 window donor once it gets fitting perfectly then slide it into place to weld it.

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    Sanded down the b pillars until the gaps were perfect. Was able to get the passenger side done. I am pretty pleased with how it's fitting.

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    You can see the 5 window quarter window section laying over the top of the quarters.
     

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  19. dodored
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    I can imagine it would be a challenge to get the doors to shut correctly. How have you dealt with that?
     
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  20. Bugguts
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    I am loving the whole process and the pictures are great! Subscribed.
     
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  21. H-O-O-V-E-R
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    H-O-O-V-E-R

    I have had the doors on and off and they are shutting great. That is with the top of the window cut off. I imagine it will get trickier the tops on. The new section I am grating in will definitely need to be fitted and in the right place before its welded. As of right now it sits really close. But with the door on it give me a perfect reference where the top part of the b pillar needs to sit before its final weld.
     
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  22. 56 Dodge Pickup
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    Fantastic this is awesome I love to see metal fab Hobo Jim
     
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  23. flamingokid
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    Simply impressed and subscribed.
     
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  24. H-O-O-V-E-R
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    Was able to fit the drivers side today. I am getting excited because it's actually starting to look like a five window!

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    The critical part is to get H the outer skin to match perfectly, you can see here that the b pillars outer edge is looking off. I will cut the lower half an pull it in to match perfectly.



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    Wanted to show a close up of the roof section. Decided that I will just take previous pieces that were cut off and graft them back in to patch where I need to. The two roofs were hitting eachother and not allowing the quarter windows to sit properly.

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    I also found out that the front half cutout of the roof is not the same shape as the five window. Will have to be cut and spliced to match perfectly.

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  25. Squablow
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    Do you happen to have that upper lip from the new roadster quarters that you had to cut off to fit them to the coupe body? I could use those pieces if they're intact yet.

    I also look forward to seeing how you get the roof sections together. That was a sticking point on my '33 that still needs to be addressed.
     
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  26. If you already know the 4 dr. upper door section is higher toward the rear then it stands to reason that the fordor roof angles "up" from the A pillars so in reality there needs to be a pie cut done at the top corner of the A pillar (which will probably look funny) it will also have to be pie cut to pinch it "in" since the 4 door rear roof is much wider at the back than the coupe.... unless you gave those front coupe roof pieces back why mess with the fordor stuff at all?
     
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  27. Squablow
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    It's not the B pillar height that was the issue for me as much as the width seemed to change abruptly (like if you were standing in front of or behind it, the joint at the roof would be bulged out to the side, not just the top from the B pillar height).

    Another HAMBer bought my '33 and took it home this weekend but I've got another '34 to do and I'm still curious to see how this comes together.
     
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  28. swade41
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    Great detailed build thread, quality work too.
     
  29. Kelly Burns
    Joined: May 22, 2009
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    Can you PM me about the panel I see in the background?
     
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  30. What a bitchin thread! Kill work!
    I will be doung the same thing pretty soon here, just found a bunch of parts that will help in our build!
    Watching and learning here for sure!

    -Shiny
     
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