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Technical Condenser

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Boden, Sep 22, 2019.

  1. Boden
    Joined: Oct 10, 2018
    Posts: 747

    Boden

    Is there any particular condenser I should use with my 8ba distributor that might be able to boost performance. But more importantly. Look good. Haha. It’s a dual point conversion distributor.


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  2. Los_Control
    Joined: Oct 7, 2016
    Posts: 737

    Los_Control
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    from TX

    I hope you find a condenser that works .... if you need 2, then buy 6.
     
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  3. Truck64
    Joined: Oct 18, 2015
    Posts: 4,618

    Truck64
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    from Ioway

    Doesn't the H.A.M.B.'s very own @tubman offer those?
     
  4. tubman
    Joined: May 16, 2007
    Posts: 5,636

    tubman
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    With a dual point conversion to an 8BA distributor, there is no room to mount the condenser inside the distributor; hence it must be mounted on the outside of the distributor. In my opinion, nothing looks worse than a "wimpy" looking regular old condenser (which may or not be of good quality) hanging off of a distributor in a vintage car. Check this out :
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    (This is an Olds "Rocket" distributor with a Mallory dual point conversion.)
     

  5. Ask Jim Linder aka Bubba
     
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  6. @tubman are you selling those condensers? or am I mixing you up with someone else:confused:
     
  7. tubman
    Joined: May 16, 2007
    Posts: 5,636

    tubman
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    Yep that's me. $60 with $8 shipping on eBay. $50 plus shipping to Alliance members.
     
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  8. good to know, thanks.
     
  9. Boden
    Joined: Oct 10, 2018
    Posts: 747

    Boden

    I’ve been looking for one of those condensers. But I can’t find one cheap anywhere. Does anyone have a used one they could sell to me?


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  10. Truck64
    Joined: Oct 18, 2015
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    Truck64
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    from Ioway

    I thought he did. That's why I pinged him.
     
  11. Truck64
    Joined: Oct 18, 2015
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    Truck64
    Member
    from Ioway

    If it's an original it may likely be spent by now. If you want it to look good, that's one thing. You can buy a modern high voltage film capacitor for about 5 bucks, but it won't look good.
     
  12. tubman
    Joined: May 16, 2007
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    tubman
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    You used to be able to find decent ones on eBay, but the last several years, every one I looked at was split open. Most will test OK, but with a split case and less than ideal underhood conditions, you're asking for trouble. A year or so ago, "Bubba" posted that he was able to score a case of NOS Mallory brass condensers in the original boxes. I believe that every one of them was split. That's when I started making my own.

    Also, Yes, you can buy modern film capacitors with the proper value (.22 to .33 micro-farads). There are many more variables however, and we had a lot of trouble finding examples that were robust enough for our purposes. You have to consider the rated temperature (at least 400 F) and something called "dv/dt" (delta voltage vs delta time). This is a rating the basically tells you how fast a capacitor can be cycled before it breaks down. Unfortunately, the distributors rarely publish this figure and often don't even know it themselves. We had to figure it out by trial and error. The problem is that the capacitors that are tough enough are also large (especially the .33 micro-farad units) and expensive, especially after the recent tariff increases.

    I have picked up a few un-split NOS inits both in the original boxes and by themselves that I would part with. However, I will have to get around $75 each for them and they come with no warranty at all, while our new units come with a 1 year warranty.
     
    Last edited: Sep 23, 2019
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  13. Here is mine I recently purchased from Tubman. (Denny)
    Looks awesome!
     

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  14. AllLikkeredUp
    Joined: Oct 12, 2017
    Posts: 7

    AllLikkeredUp

    Tubman, how does one go about purchasing one of your condensors - I have a Mallory YB287AX dizzy. Wouldn't mind finding points (24205) and rotor (24215), as well. Thx.
     
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  15. Calling @tubman , see prior post, above. Thanks.
     
  16. Truckedup
    Joined: Jul 25, 2006
    Posts: 4,072

    Truckedup
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    I have used a common Chevt V8 Delco condensor in a number of 6 and 12 volt vehicles, dual and single points, motorcycles, tractors etc. Always fixed the problem if the problem was a bad condensor.
     
  17. tubman
    Joined: May 16, 2007
    Posts: 5,636

    tubman
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    PM me, here or on the "Ford Barn". If that doesn't work you can email at "dennyodoms@gmail.com". I have just finished a fresh batch.

    I am in Florida for the winter, so I am away from my shop and references, but I know that Echlin (available at NAPA) has some replacements available for most Mallory points (I have to believe that Mallory used commonly available points in their distributors, rather than developing a propriety solution). The same may be true for rotors. I know that caps for the Mallory's used to be available from NAPA.

    "Google" may be your friend here.
     
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