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History Color Code for 35 Duesenberg Anyone?

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  1. Boryca
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    Hey all, I'm working on pinning down a color code for the truck I'm slapping together, and hit on Clark Gable's custom '35 Duesenberg. I really like the color, but can't find the paint code anywhere... Anyone have any leads/tips/thoughts on what it might cross to?

    Thanks,
    Mike
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  2. J. A. Miller
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    Coach built body = custom paint. Good luck
     
  3. Boryca
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    Yeah, tell me about it... :(
     
  4. That car is breath-taking. Good luck with the color.
     

  5. mgtstumpy
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    ...Reworked by Bohman & Schwartz in Pasadena, CA and repainted in luminous cream.
    In 1942, Lombard was killed in a plane crash near Las Vegas. Gable, devastated, instructed an agent to sell the Duesenberg. Gable died in 1960.
    It is undeniably rare; fewer than a dozen JNs were built – only four of which were convertibles.
    The Duesenberg became a vagabond, crisscrossing the country, changing hands about a dozen times. It was repainted at least four different colors. Its engine was replaced in the 1950s.
    But the current owner, Mr. Gooding said, acquired it in 2006 and ordered a restoration to the Gable era.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/05/automobiles/collectibles/gable-lombard-and-a-35-duesenberg.html
    https://jerrygarrett.wordpress.com/...bles-notorious-1935-duesenberg-directors-cut/
     
  6. theHIGHLANDER
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    I've seen the car a couple times in person. PPG has a color in their custom stuff called "Vanilla Shake". Take a look at that, I think you'd like it and get what you want. There's no "paint code" per se on these things. Without having a period color book or some early number charts it's all "by eye" and experience. I've been around these big cars for over 40 years. Not a single one had a paint code on it, though there may be a 1 in 100,000 chance at legit paper work to see. FWIW, Cadillacs can be traced back to how they were ordered/sold back into the 20s, Lincoln Continentals can be researched through "The Henry Ford" museum in Dearborn. There's a list of Duesenbergs including a generic description of color, as in "black" or "cream", but no codes. Good luck...
     
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  7. 1time
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    I agree with theHIGHLANDER when I saw that picture I thought of the vanilla shake color, I used it on the roof of this 65 a couple years ago, PPG # 90990
     

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  8. Boryca
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    Thanks Highlander, that helps quite a bit. I know it's tough trying to match, I just need something better than "yeah, it's kinda cream colored..." when I walk into the paint store. :)
     
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  9. $um Fun
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    Contact Randy Ema, he knows all things Duesenberg. Chances are he may have been consulted in the restoration of the car.
     
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  10. J. A. Miller
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    Whatever the color is, it should have a name like "Lombard's silk panties".
     
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  11. Check out Packard Cream or Packard Ivory from '37-'38. I sometimes see the cream called Cigarette Cream.
     
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  12. Boryca
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    Hmm... yeah, that is pretty close. Thanks!
     
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  14. theHIGHLANDER
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    Cigarette Cream looks really yellow compared to that Duesy. Just sayin...
     
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  15. Boryca
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    That's my impression too. After looking into this a bit I've realized there's a huge variance in "cream" colors.
     
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  16. If you ever determine a close approximation of the color, I at least have a suggestion for a name...........................French Vanilla Ice Cream.:D
     
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  17. Babar40
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    Take it to Home Depot, they can match it for you. But seriously, that is on beautiful color. Good luck.
     
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  18. DDDenny
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    I first saw this color in the early 90's I think, man I was IN LOVE with it, really makes for a great two-tone complement color.
     
  19. Frankie47
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    How about Plymouth's Charlotte Ivory?
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    [Or Chrysler's cool vanilla 2007 300]
    not going to post that picture...lol.
     
  20. Boryca
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    Glad to see I'm not alone in liking this color! Though I have a feeling that if I was, I'd still use it :)

    @Frankie47, I think that's a bit yellower than what I'm shooting for, but thanks for the pics! I like seeing how different creams are used with other colors, bodies, etc.
     
  21. Frankie47
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    Here is the cool vanilla from a 2007 chrysler 300.
     

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  22. 30dodge
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    Packard Ivory was one of the popular and standard colors back in the day. It was also a pinstripe color used by many of the auto manufacturers in the 20s & 30s. It is not as yellow as Cigarette Cream.
     
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  23. theHIGHLANDER
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    Go figure, I actually have a PPG Vibrance color deck. For you and anyone else wanting to see "Vanilla Shake":
    006.jpg
    That's in as good a daylight pic as I can get. The following 2 are in "shop light" conditions, but I also took it on white paper and yellow to be able to cipher the shade or tone. Also with it is a color called "Custard" which is pretty brown when held in contrast. Hope this helps, enjoy...
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    010.jpg

    Of interest to some, look at what background or contrast does to the same color in the same conditions. All are the same within minutes of each other. Eyes are amazing, yes?
     
  24. stanlow69
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    Watching with great interest. Here`s a pic from a calendar I have. Scan0635.jpg
     
  25. Boryca
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