The Jalopy Journal
Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Evilfalcon1961, May 2, 2008.
found some on google but does anyone have others
A local guy, Mark Olson, has a website about the one his dad drove.
I don't have any digital pictures but I do have quite a few regular photos of Frank Kleptz's car from Terre Haute. His car is the only operable Chrysler turbine car in existance that is in private hands. There is a very wild history on how Frank happened to be in the right place at the right time on two seperate occasions and was able to buy the car (with a decommisioned engine) and a 2nd time when an display engine was available. His car and display engine came from Harrah's when the IRS came in and ordered everything auctioned. The deal Chrylser had was that only 501C3 museums or foundations could ever own these. Needless to say, the IRS had more authority over what was to be auctioned than Chrylser did.
Frankie had the Chrysler turbine running and on display at Hershey a few years ago. All original, never restored, and it is a super neat car.
I've got the brochure at home, I can scan a few pages...
There is no way I could watch that. I'd cry too. As a lover of all things Mopar, I'd kill for one of those with a running engine.
Love this car- sat in #18 years ago in Detroit. Hear it howl:
(Sorry- don't know how to post from the 'tube...)
I just realized that I've taken pictures of four of the reamining nine Turbine cars in museums. I just saw one last week!
Chrysler Museum (Detroit):
Ford Museum (Detroit):
Petersen Museum (Los Angeles):
No biggie--I just thought it was kind of neat.
here is a few pics from a show it was at in my neck of the woods. really cool car. sounds like a vacuum cleaner running when he was driving it around the show field.
Thats probably the same one we seen at the Mopar Nationals in Columbus Oh in the late 90's. Sure does sound wierd running.
I came home from school one day and found one of these parked in the driveway. An old Navy buddy of my Dad's was test driving the car around the country. I thought I had died and gone to heaven.
I tryed to get the DR. in So. Pasadena Ca that was one of the lucky test drivers of one, to race my Triumph Bonnville in 1959 but he use the "I have a Gold Fish bowl on the passenger seat" line. we both laughed .
When is was going to school, Cat gave the Mechanical Engineering Department a gas turbine. Yes, it was painted yellow. The whole assembly was smaller than a 350 Chevy.
It was about 2'x1.5'x1.5'. It developed 300hp with one rotating shaft. The turbine actually developed 900 hp but the compressor and accessories used 600hp. I thought it was pretty cool.
I visited the ME department a few years ago and found it over in a corner kind of covered up with junk. Some of the students did not know what it was.
I saw 2 of those,...One in Buffalo NY, in 1964, and the other in Sumter So. Carolina, in 1965. The "owner" was telling us they had a green light on the dash, to indicate the engine was running, because it was so quiet. When he started it to leave, you really had to listen, to hear it. I recall Popular Science magazines of the 50's having a lot of automotive coverage,...printing items about Chrysler experimenting with turbine cars as early as 1954; They put those powerplants in Plymouth 4 door sedans, and road tested them on the streets. Anyone know just when Chrysler began the turbine experiments ?
Those turbine coupes were beautiful !!!
Anyone know why they dropped the program ?
Basically, the engine components were very expensive and time consuming to manufacture. They couldn't mass produce the engines in enough quantities or fast enough to make production feasible or profitable. It was cheaper to just keep building internal combustion engines.
There's a very good book about the whole program that tells the entire story from start to finish, well worth reading:
Fuel mileage and cost and no
appreciable performance advantage
over conventional piston-engined
cars of the day. Essentially the
same reasons we're not driving
turbine-powered cars today.
Saw one at the New York Auto Show when it was new, still have a brochure around somewere. Bob
They tried gas turbines in locomotives for a while. Union Pacific had a bunch of them. They parked a running one under a bridge and it melted all of a asphalt on the bridge and the locomotive was covered with melted asphalt. I saw the picture in a model RR magazine. Gas turbine are not fuel efficient. Power companies use them for generating electricity but usually they run the exhaust to a heat recovery unit and generate steam which then turns a steam turbine. This is called a combined cycle unit and it is pretty efficient way of generating electricity.
A painful and sick video to watch.
Because the bodies were made by
Ghia in Italy and Chrysler had
imported them on a temporary U.S.
Customs bond, when the cars finished
their U.S. show and test-drive tours,
Chrysler would have had to either pay
a Customs duty of about 60,00 dollars
each, based on the appraised Customs
value of the cars, or, ship them back to
Italy, or destroy them. Except for a
handful that Chrysler paid the duty
on and saved for historical purposes,
Chrysler chose to crush most of them
- which they then filmed to show U.S.
Customs and prove compliance.
YouTube Video - "Chrysler Turbine
Cars Being Destroyed"
Original Chrysler film footage of
the Turbine Cars being destroyed
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When I was a kid I always thought it looked like Chrysler started the project with a Thunderbird...Now as an old guy I still think it!!
'Back in the day' (Aug. 1964?) I
saw one on display as part of the
Chrysler exhibit in the Automotive
Building at the Canadian National
Exhibition in Toronto. I remember
as kid, besides the exotic styling
and the turbine engine, being
particularly enamored with the
'glass-smooth' and 'mile-deep'
candy-metalic orange paint job.
The resemblance to a '61 through '63
T-bird was more than just coincidental.
I don't remember the designer's name
off hand, but the stylist Chrysler used
to design the body for the Turbine cars
had previously worked at Ford where
he had designed - or helped to design
- the '61 Thunderbird.
Doesn't Leno have one too? seems I remember a vid of him driving his...
They completey captured my imagination back then too - I loved this car!
I saw and touched it. It was when the showfield was on the west side of the stadium. I still have an unbuilt 1/25 model.
IRS did not auction Harrah's collection.Bill Harrah sold his hotels and the collection to Holiday Inns. They auctioned the cars.
Yes, he owns one of the two that are in private hands, according to Leno's video.
Separate names with a comma.