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CHEAP and Great Alternative Coil Springs '49 thru '59 Ford and Merc

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Fairlane Dave, Apr 26, 2008.

  1. Section 8
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    Section 8
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    What size are your tires?
     
  2. The Hank
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    The Hank
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    Damn , nice going finding a cross refrence on the springs . I need some for my 65 Impala. Nice car man.
     
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  3. Gasser57
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    I just ordered the springs and shocks today. pretty cheap at Auto Zone. Hope to be scraping around town soon. Thanks again for the tip.
     
  4. deluxester
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    That's excellent. Thank you.
     
  5. kustombypook
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    Dude. You rule. Will be lowering my Edsel soon.
     
  6. Section 8
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    Section 8
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    What year?

    My '59 Villager Wagon is waiting to hear how this turns out.
     
  7. 55olds88
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    good skills, I heard the same for mid 50's Olds with aussie Falcon v8 springs, wouldn't be surprised if they are the same as 69-72 or so Mustang.....
     
  8. kustombypook
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    59 Ranger 4 door.
     
  9. Me and Bugger lowered his 50 Merc with those springs,last weekend. It lowered the front about 2 1/2 to 3". It rides great now. And looks awesome.
     
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  10. Great, I'm looking to drop my '53 Vic and my '52 Merc. Thanks
     
  11. lowmaster
    Joined: Oct 26, 2003
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    Is the overall height of the Aerostar spring lower than stock ford springs or just a lighter weight coil? Wonder if they would work if you already had those spacer blocks under the spring plate? I have spacers on my 49 but the old springs are sagging on one side. I'm thinking if I use the Aerostars I'll have to remove the blocks right?
     
  12. Fairlane Dave
    Joined: Mar 23, 2007
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    The overall height is actually shorter on the Aerostar springs. They have the same number of coils if I remember correctly, but they are closer together, which makes them a couple of inches shorter if compared side by side.
     
  13. JEPPA
    Joined: Apr 27, 2007
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    Thanks a milllion!


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  14. Da Tinman
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    77 Monte carlo shocks are perfect for this application,, the only thing you have to do is drill new mounting holes 90 degrees from stock holes.

    I used them on our Shoebox, fit great, and dont bottom out
     
  15. Anyone going to start selling $150 3" drop springs on eBay and shipping Aerostar springs to the buyers?
     
  16. mykwillis
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    sure, i guess i'll take one for the team. :D
     
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  17. Fairlane Dave
    Joined: Mar 23, 2007
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    Maybe I should put one of those ads on Ebay where you bidding in "information that will allow you to lower the front of your 49-59 Ford up to 3 inches" for a fraction of the cost of retail parts."

    That thought actually crossed my mind when I first posted this, but it's more fun just to share the info. Of course, that was before I got laid off from my job, so I might need to order some springs and get started!
     
  18. Johnny1290
    Joined: Apr 20, 2006
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    Maybe someone can school me on this...the rockauto specs for stock front shocks are:

    stock PN 5751, threaded upper and lower mount
    <table class="text" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><center> Compressed Length </center></td></tr><tr> <td align="center">8.500" </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td valign="top"> <table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td> <center> Extended Length </center></td></tr><tr> <td align="center">13.750" </td> </tr></tbody></table></td> <td valign="top"> <table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td> <center> Travel </center></td></tr><tr> <td align="center">5.250"</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>
    the suggested Monroe PN 5821 have a crosspin lower mount and are for front 75-80 skyhawk or a chevy monza 71-70 vega, 75-80 olds starfire, 73-77 pont. aspre, 88 fiero, 76-80 pontiac sunbird all front:
    <table class="text" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><center> Compressed Length </center></td></tr><tr> <td align="center">8.000" </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td valign="top"> <table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td> <center> Extended Length </center></td></tr><tr> <td align="center">11.750" </td> </tr></tbody></table></td> <td valign="top"> <table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td> <center> Travel </center></td></tr><tr> <td align="center">3.750"</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>and the other suggested 77 monte carlo shocks are crosspin lower mount and PN 5840

    <table class="text" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><center> Compressed Length </center></td></tr><tr> <td align="center">8.750" </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td valign="top"> <table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td> <center> Extended Length </center></td></tr><tr> <td align="center">13.250" </td> </tr></tbody></table></td> <td valign="top"> <table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td> <center> Travel </center></td></tr><tr> <td align="center">4.500"</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>

    I also found a 5829, which is for 80-83 cordova 83-89 5th ave 76-80 aspen 77-89 caravelle
    Has the matching size stem mount for '51 Ford

    <table class="text" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="top"><table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><center> Compressed Length </center></td></tr><tr> <td align="center">7.125" </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> <td valign="top"> <table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td> <center> Extended Length </center></td></tr><tr> <td align="center">10.750" </td> </tr></tbody></table></td> <td valign="top"> <table bgcolor="#ffffff" border="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td> <center> Travel </center></td></tr><tr> <td align="center">3.625"</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table>
    Now I'm looking at the Monroe parts catalog,

    and then my head exploded.

    I've looked at threads on selecting shocks...it still doesn't make sense...anybody got a suggestion?!?:confused::eek::cool:
     
  19. SlowandLow63
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    Nevermind, apparently you already saw it. :)
     
  20. T-Bone
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    Are the stock spring really all the same on Fords and Mercs 49-59?
     
  21. mark53
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    thanks for the tip cank wait to rebuild the front end
     
  22. Johnny1290
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    So I measured my shocks, and the installed length is 11". If I install the PN 5821 that has the 11.75" extended length, isn't that going to self destruct on my car? That car comes 2800-3000# from the factory, close to the 3100# shoebox.

    The monte is 3800# and has 1/4" higher compressed length compared to the Monza shock but 4.5 " of travel, right in the middle between the stock shock and the Monza

    Da Tinman told me on his car they ride like a caddy but are stiffer than stock. I'm not surre if his car is lowered but I'd have to think it is. I guess I'm going to get under there and check the compressed and extended lengths tomorrow.

    I just wish I knew how to interpret and analyze the shock data.
     
  23. toadfrog
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    I was wandering the same thing.........
     
  24. CadillacKid
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    Sweet! I'll be doing this to the front of my '50 Merc. Still can't figure out what 143 means...anybody figure out a lowering leaf spring for the back?
     
  25. Most people stick a $20 lowering block in there.
     
  26. 143 is gangsta slang for "i love you"

    fo sho.

    tok
     
  27. deluxester
    Joined: Mar 14, 2004
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    Thank you very much you guys.

    I just installed a new pair and they fit perfect. This saved me alot of time and I can enjoy my car right away. The height is ok for now but I might add plates at the lower A frames or flip spindles in the future.
     
  28. Section 8
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    Installed 'em on what?
     
  29. BAD ROD
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    Looks like he put them on a 50 ford.

    What do you mean by "plates at the lower A frame or flip spindles?
     
  30. Johnny1290
    Joined: Apr 20, 2006
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    lowering plates/spacers on lower a arm to lower spring perch...not great for ride...and flipping the spindles, look in tech section theres a great explanation there..need to have a torch to do a little bending to get it to align when you're done but it don't cost nuthin
     

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