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Hot Rods Can this project be a part of the HAMB?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by vintage_mpg, Mar 3, 2020.

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  1. raven
    Joined: Aug 19, 2002
    Posts: 4,614


    If you had all the parts, a thrash would net a proper front suspension under that thing over the course of a weekend.

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  2. Years ago, this would not fit on the HAMB. It's obviously a rat rod. But, this is a different HAMB, now days. "It's your car, do what you want." "Don't listen to the haters."
    But, if I were you, I'd see that car as a pile of parts. I'd save what you can use and start with a car that doesn't need so much change. Once you remove the rat rod part, you have some parts to build upon.
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  3. The big grille must also go, this is the rattiest part, IMHO. Also the skinny 30's wires don't fit with the ugraded suspension. Steel wheels would look better.
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  4. luckythirteenagogo
    Joined: Dec 28, 2012
    Posts: 1,265


    Man, hotrodding is about making the most with what you have and having fun with it. Make it safe and drive the hell out of it. Make changes along the way to get it where you want it to be. Like others have said, ask all the questions you need, just don't mention the modern stuff.

    Good luck and have a blast!

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  5. Dooley
    Joined: May 29, 2002
    Posts: 2,712

    from Buffalo NY

    I agree with this provided he wants to build it traditionally styled, but if he didn't then yes it would not fit here and what would be wrong with that?
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  6. madness...............every chunk of old iron ever driven was driven for the- right reasons......the wrong reasons........ or NO reason! Just fix it up the way ya want, drive the wheels off it, don't apologize......Life is short.......make it thump and boogie forth!!
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  7. Torkwrench
    Joined: Jan 28, 2005
    Posts: 2,506


    As has already been mentioned, it depends on your overall plan for the car. It sounds like the short term plan is to get it running and driving. Is modifying it into a "Traditional" Hot Rod, your long term plan? Are you also looking for ideas and ways to build it into a "Traditional" Hot Rod? If so, then, yes it belongs here.
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  8. chubbie
    Joined: Jan 14, 2009
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  9. Evilfordcoupe™
    Joined: May 22, 2001
    Posts: 1,818


    1. If in doubt, don't post it.

    My favorite.

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  10. woodsnwater
    Joined: Apr 4, 2016
    Posts: 443

    from North Al.

    Almost every question I ever had about my build had already been asked 5 different ways. Just google the question and end it with the word jalopy.
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  11. missysdad1
    Joined: Dec 9, 2008
    Posts: 2,993


    The biggest difficulty your car has with not being "traditional" is the MII front suspension, and in my mind that is not a fatal flaw even though it does run afoul of the HAMB rules. The good news, as has already been pointed out, is that the MII can be removed and a conventional front crossmember and beam axle installed without a great deal of re-engineering. Speedway Motors sells the front end components in "kit" form so you'll not need a lot of experience to do a first-class job. A quick trip to Pick-A-Part will net you some cast exhaust manifolds and a 4-bbl intake and carb to take the funky off your engine. These changes will get you back in good graces with the HAMB Police and greatly improve the looks and streetability of your car as well. Its got lots of potential. Good luck!

    Edit: The flaw in your plan as I see it is that you will spend a fair amount of your available funds getting the car roadworthy as it is. Those same funds could be used instead to correct the "non-traditional" aspects and go along way towards making it HAMB-friendly...and a better car at the same time. The third point I'd make is that if your car is ever mistaken for a "rat rod" you've done something very wrong on the path of making it a true "hot rod". The term "rat rod" is a strong pejorative in hot rod circles. Just thought you'd like to know, being a newbie and all. Again, good luck. I think your car has good bones and can be an outstanding hot rod in time.
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  12. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
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    Bandit Billy

  13. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
    Posts: 14,764

    from oregon

    Hell, I'm not even in charge of getting out of bed (when I want)! :mad:
    Beaner, to be "entirely truthful" I'm a newbie in the HAMB scheme of things.
    See my join date.
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  14. 57JoeFoMoPar
    Joined: Sep 14, 2004
    Posts: 4,865


    I agree. This is the kinder, gentler HAMB.

    The problem is, from a practical standpoint, it's probably not the best financial decision to try to unfuck a car that is all rat-rodded out to make it a traditional car. This rat rod could be sold to someone who doesn't car that the car isn't traditional, and the proceeds used to purchase a car that doesn't need to be un-rat-rodded. That is, of course, depending on how much money the OP has in this project to begin with. If the car was very inexpensive to obtain, then perhaps it would make more sense to right the wrong.

    The shame of it is, this could be a cool car with some fixing.
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  16. Well,,to be honest it does look cool from a distance .
    What bothers me is it looks like someone purposely cut chunks out of the body to Rat it up some,,,,,I think it detracts from the overall beauty of the car .
    Also,,,,Rat is very OT here,,,I am in complete agreement as well.
    The front end is very un traditional and is a mortal sin on the Hamb .
    Sorry,,,but the rules clearly say that,,,,also,,,in complete agreement there as well.
    The other stuff needs attention,,,frame,,,,looks like it needs a little glass in it as well,,,,are there any windows in it at all ?
    Ditch the front grill,,,abstract,,,,completely takes away from the car,,,,might as well put a Rolls Royce grill in it .
    Get rid of (change ) the headers,,,,look like the angel wing hairdos back in the days.
    Not too bad,,,just look out of place in some situations,,,,too out there,,,you know ?
    The tunnel ram and engine are fine I think .
    Change the wheels and tire combo,,,get rid of the bags .

    You did state in your first post,,,”evolution back to road worthy “,,,you start at one place and go from there.
    Keep it simple,,,,do what you can budget at the time,,,,nothing happens over night .
    Like has been stated,,,don’t emphasize the shortcomings for the Hamb standards.
    People will try to help and look the other way ,,,at least for a while .

    It has a lot of potential,,,,and could be brought back to Hamb worthiness with the right components.

    I’m not running it down,,,,,just offering a way to the finish line.
    No matter how anyone feels,,,,,the Hamb is the best,,!

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  17. jim snow
    Joined: Feb 16, 2007
    Posts: 1,226

    jim snow

    Best advice you gonna get right there.jmho. Snowman
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  18. We've all had to start somewhere, ask all the question you want and someone will answer, this group of people (HAMBers) are very honest with their info and opinions, and you'll get a lot of jokes but don't take it personal they're just having fun. I do agree that a few changes would make it more traditional (keep in mind that this is a Traditional Hot Rod forum) so when your ready to make some changes just let us know. Here's my old '30 Coupe may she R.I.P. BigO CARS Custom.jpg
  19. Big O,,,,now that is a fine looking Hot Rod,,,,she was really nice !

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  20. ^^This^^
  21. 302GMC
    Joined: Dec 15, 2005
    Posts: 6,726

    from Idaho

    Only problem I can see is that it's uglier than a sack full of mashed assholes ….
  22. panhead_pete
    Joined: Feb 22, 2006
    Posts: 2,683


    Here's my 2 cents. Its a non ford 4 door with quite a few issues. You will soon have way too much in it for what its worth and you started by saying you want a traditional car. This will only make that take a lot longer to achieve.

    Sell it and use the funds to buy a nice running A Coupe and start with that. Then work on that a little at a time, collecting parts like F1 steering, dropped axle, brakes etc and slowly build the car you want whilst still having something to drive.
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  23. Lil'Alb
    Joined: Sep 22, 2013
    Posts: 219

    from brier, wa

    LOL this thread...
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  24. Just don’t put any skulls or other crap on it.

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  25. 392
    Joined: Feb 27, 2007
    Posts: 1,202


    My opinion. Old hamb hell no. New hamb still hell no with a few exceptions. Very hard to polish a turd. Sell off and start over.
  26. Mr48chev
    Joined: Dec 28, 2007
    Posts: 28,831


    I go along pretty well with Chappy.
    First as others said, don't show, write about or make a big deal of the MII. Kind of like remembering only to take photos of your sister from one side because she doesn't like the way her nose looks like from the other side even though she is the only one who notices it but ya gotta keep peace in the family.

    The butt ass ugly headers gotta go first, maybe some tight tucks and run some pipes under the car so you can actually drive it unless there is just no room under it.
    The grill shell will probably self remove if you don't do something with it. It might get you a better parking spot at Viva though.
    To me that silly visor has to go. The original shape of the front of the roof on that body is one of it's better features and that ugly piece really distracts from the car's looks. getting rid of it is probably a minimal cost deal but it gets rid of a lot of the rat rod look.
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  27. King ford
    Joined: Mar 18, 2013
    Posts: 1,464

    King ford
    from 08302

    Weelllll hell I might as well throw my 2 cents in!....the op doesn't seem to be too bothered by the fact that it is WAY non traditional and folks are telling him how to change out the front suspension which I believe he said he is ok with! has been stated, Google any question and you'll get an answer. If you want to ask here HIDE the rat looking shit ...or maybe the op should ask on the R..rod site....
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  28. Lil'Alb
    Joined: Sep 22, 2013
    Posts: 219

    from brier, wa

    I'm guessing this thing might be a lot rougher than it looks in the pics ( a general rule) BUT if you got it pretty cheap I think it would be a great project to hone your skills, make it great for what it is without spending too much cash, flip it and use that cash to build whatever your Hot Rod® dream ride. Fun and learning are the keys. I highly recommend the "I'm here to pick up the rubbish" thread from drylakespeedshop in Oz. That dude has taken a million sows ears and come up with a rad duece roadster. He is great at flipping the undesirable and acquiring the good
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  29. 0NE BAD 51 MERC
    Joined: Nov 12, 2010
    Posts: 1,462

    0NE BAD 51 MERC

    Gman, I don't always agree with your opinions on here, but this I have to say I agree 200%. very well stated. Larry
  30. Moselli
    Joined: Feb 16, 2009
    Posts: 99


    I like your project, Vintage. Rock on...

    “It’s important to pay attention to the HAMB ‘rules’ so that you know how to properly break them.”

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