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Technical Can someone ID the year of these old early Ford front and rear ends?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by theloosecannon707, Mar 16, 2021.

  1. Thanks for reading,

    Picked these front and rear ends up out of a field on the Tejon Ranch in ca. The guy said it was from a early car.

    I don’t know specifically what they would have come off of other then something mid 30’s Ford; as they are mechanical breaks and wide 5’s.

    Any insight as far as to car or truck, and maybe what year?

    Please and thanks... IMG_0302.JPG IMG_0301.JPG IMG_0300.JPG IMG_0299.JPG IMG_0298.JPG



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  2. Hnstray
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    Curious why not also possible they are 1936? What detail(s) tell the story?

    Ray
     
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  3. Fordors
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    The quick spotting feature is the cable operated brakes but in addition the distance between the perch bolt and the king pin is shorter than ‘32-‘36 axles.
     

  4. gimpyshotrods
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    Also, the "snout" on the front drums is too short. 1936-only had a wider front wheel bearing spacing, more like previous models.
     
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  5. 31Apickup
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    35-36 had the spring perches as part of the rear radius rods.


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  6. Can the old wide five drums also be dated by the wide flange and three fins ? I have wide five drums in the pile with real deep fins and also shallow fins like the OP has posted.
    BTW LooseCannon, Nice find, looks like the parts were well protected from the elements.
    1937-38.jpg
     
  7. Another feature for identification is the round back front spindles.
     
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  8. 42merc
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    1937 or 1938 Ford
     
  9. rusty valley
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    i think those drums with the tall fin are aftermarket. i have some too
     
  10. 42merc
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    One more item.
    Check the torque tube about midway for a grease fitting.
    A '38 has a solid driveshaft, with a support bearing that requires grease.
    The '37 used a tubular shaft and does not use a bearing, therefore no grease fitting.
     
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  11. Great info right there......was just looking at an old wagon frame past it's prime.....thought it a 37/38 because I didn't know.
     
  12. Marty Strode
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    Also, the '37 has a 10 spline pinion, as compared to the more valuable 6 spline in the '38 to '48.
     
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  13. Dapper Dan
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    And the '36 spindles backs are rectangular, not round .....
     
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