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  1. Bashnscratch
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    Looking to identify what year and make this car is.

    What I do know is that it is a Budd body. Full vision all steel Budd body. Unfortunately the dash has literally been hacked out of it as well as the tops of the quarter panels and rear of the deck. There are two tags on the firewall stating it is a Budd body and a four digit number stamped into the firewall. The window regulator is rather unique, appears to be on an acme threaded shaft? Also it appears that the trunk lid sat above the rear sheet metal and the quarters were trimmed with a Model A like T molding. Any help is appreciated thanks guys.
     

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  2. Squablow
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    It's so boxy and simple looking, it almost looks homemade (although it clearly is not). It's neat, whatever it is.
     
  3. saltflats
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  4. Homemade44
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    My guess is a 1924 or 25 Studebaker.
     

  5. I have no idea, except that it looks to be perfect Hot Rod material.
     
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  6. Flathead Dave
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  7. Bashnscratch
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    Very similar but too many discrepancies to completely convince me it is a 26/7 Dodge. Belt line around the cab, trunk lid above sheet metal. T moldings on rear deck. T shape reveal in firewall. etc.
     
  8. utahdodge
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    [​IMG]
    Listed as a 1924 studebaker light coupe.


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  9. gimpyshotrods
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    It is the foundation of a great open wheeled hot rod.
     
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  10. Flathead Dave
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    Yes. It is very similar to a Ford T. Even the fire wall is close. Ford, Chevrolet and Studebaker didn't have closed off quarter windows like Dodge 3 Window Coupe did that I know of. Notice the elongated doors and windows.

    Also, my Dad had one and I rode in it many times as a kid.

    Here is one as a reference.
    1926 Dodge Brothers Coupe


    Dodge Brothers Coupe . 26 all metal dodge coupe with air,power brakes,power antenna,radio,tilt,automatic,318 v-8 motor,and more

    PRICE REDUCED $ 28,500 will trade for a chevy or ford sedan in 30yr range in good operating cond.



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    Call (903) 267-1906
    Sherman, Texas US
    Send Owner an Email


    Ad # 42172



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  11. BJR
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    Way to hijack your ad into someone else's post!
     
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  12. lucky13
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    Looked like it was just for reference to me
     
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  13. The ad says Sherman Texas and his location shows California. I don't think it is his ad.
     
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  14. Hot Rods Ta Hell
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    As crude as it is, I'd wager it was a 'prototype' for the tooling engineers. Maybe early 20's vision of the 1926 era quarter lines, etc. This was before clay, etc. This may have been a pre production, one off tool shop prototype.

    I read Budd had a hell of a time fuse welding panels, finally settling on arc. Their shop had panel men spending a ton of hours straightening fused panels prior to that. This era introduced fusion welding and deep draw body panels along with high production vs. old world coach/panel beating. Things were about to change fast for body shapes and styling. 'Bodies in white' were soon to find their way from stamping plants to the assembly lines where panels were built into bodies once they arrived. 27Essexdurant.jpg
    Budd produced bodies for a lot of Co.'s. There were dozens of auto makers in Detroit at the time. This also could have been a prototype (bid) for an upstart auto maker that never panned out.

    Any evidence it was part of a functioning car( body mounts, paint, screw holes for garnish moldings, etc.)? If not it may be a tooling prototype

    Closest I found is a 1927 Essex/Durant;
     
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  15. whtbaron
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    According to the Wiki link, they made mostly Dodges so it could be a variation. There is also a link that indicates they made a small number of Model A sedans in an attempt to get a Ford contract. Maybe they made some coupes too?
     
  16. Absolutely agree, similar to a DB but definitely not.

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  17. Flathead Dave
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    You can read, right?
     
  18. BJR
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    Didn't see the "Here is one for reference" line. My apologies Flathead Dave.
     
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    Accepted! "HIGH FIVE"
     
  20. millersgarage
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    I'd say it started like as a Dodge, and the rear of the roof was replaced by the owner at some time.
    The belt line from the doors, does not follow around the rear of the car. I doubt any manufacturer would have made it that way.
     
  21. 30dodge
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    As stated above, Budd would use modified dies to make low production cars like the Ruxston. If it is a Dodge the serial number would be stamped on the upper right side of the fire wall.
     
  22. Bashnscratch
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    There is a four digit number stamped into the firewall but almost dead center.
     

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  23. Bashnscratch
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    The roof looks absolutely factory to me. I see no signs of it being modified or replaced. I was thinking that it may have had a padded cover over it when new as it is also raised from the rest of the tin?
     

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  24. Greenblade
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    Weird looking thing for sure. Boxy.
     
  25. nrgwizard
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    Very early Willys?
    Either way, would make a hell of a nice won't-see-yourself-on-every-corner hot/streetrod.
    Marcus...
     
  26. sunbeam
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    The big users of Budd Bodys was Chrysler corp. 1925 dodge?
     
  27. scotts52
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    I was thinking Willy's too.
     
  28. It's a D O D G E ..
     

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