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Hot Rods Calif is again trying to ban gasoline powered cars

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  1. Binkman
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    The chair of CARB in California , Mary Nichols is going to reintroduce legislation to eliminate gasoline powered gars in Calif by 2040.
    They will stop at nothing to get the old gasoline powered cars off the roads first and then all cars except for electic cars.
    The legislation failed last year but is being reintroduced in a slightly modified form this year.
    I have no idea how much more Califonian's will put up with.
    Driving my hot rod is one of the things I still appreciate and look forward to.
    I apologize in advance if this is too contorversial or politically incorect for this forum.
    I thought car people should know what is headed their way.
     
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  2. lostviking
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    I can't get out of California fast enough, but need to wait a few more years for retirement. Seems a lot of people agree as last year, again, more people left California than moved here. Wonder how the politicians will like their State, when they are the only ones paying taxes for their friends to live off of?
     
  3. RmK57
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    Are they talking about new car sales and slowly fazing out gas engines on the dealer lots?
     
  4. Scootin
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    This legislation is always about NEW cars. Nothing with old or used. Not that big of a deal honestly.
     
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  5. blowby
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    And what of the oil refineries?
     
  6. Binkman
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    Looks like a lot more than "nothing really" to me.

    “That might mean, for example, tougher requirements for low-carbon fuels, looking at tighter health-protective regulations on California refineries, doubling down on our enforcement efforts on mobile and stationary sources — and might lead to an outright ban on internal-combustion engines,” according to the remarks obtained by Bloomberg News.

    Are e-bikes the answer to health, traffic and environmental issues?

    “It’s time that we clear the path for emissions-free transportation and take significant steps to achieve our ambitious emissions reduction goals," Assemblyman Phil Ting, a San Francisco Democrat, said in a statement at the time.

    The California New Car Dealers Association opposed the measure, saying the state lacked enough public charging stations to keep all those electrics on the road, that the bill didn't take into account the valuable role played by gas-electric hybrid vehicles and that it was too hard to mandate rules on vehicle sales more than 20 years in the future.

    Already, California is the nation's leader in the sale of electric cars. The association says more than 500,000 are on the road.

    Electric cars like Rivian, Tesla, Jaguar offer unique storage spaces

    Some experts agree the timing isn't yet right to talk about a gasoline-free future.

    "California has always been a visionary when it comes to 'green' cars," said Ron Cogan, publisher of the Green Car Journal.

    "It's not surprising there are elements in government who want to move us away from internal-combustion cars." But "given the high cost of electric cars and that a great majority of entry-level buyers can't afford them, it's too early about talk about taking gas-powered cars off the road," Cogan said.

    Given the charging challenge and other issues, "so many things have to happen before that is financially or fundamentally possible," he added





     
  7. Jalopy Joker
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    all the more reason to get out and drive 'em while you can
     
  8. RmK57
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    I don't have problem with it then. For a day to day commuter I'd drive an electric car. As far as gas engines in old cars there's enough to go around for the next 100 years, at least. It may even make gas cheaper because of a glut.
     
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  10. arkiehotrods
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    My cars are all hybrids. They burn gasoline and rubber!
     
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  12. Mike Colemire
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    Hell they are trying to ban cows. Whole bunch of stupid out there.
     
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  13. lostone
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    I don't understand how some of these idiots get voted in.... Some of them multiple times...
     
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    That's funny and the truth.
     
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  15. jimmy six
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    I’ll be here until I die 75 now and born here. With all electric cars we will need more polluting power plants. Refineries will be here because they feed the pipelines going east.

    Democrats freebie promises and the weather keeps folks here especially the homeless. Not to many homeless in North Dakota...
     
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  16. tubman
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    Talk to some younger people about this sometime. We're not in Kansas any more.
     
  17. slowmotion
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    Nice place to visit, but...
     
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  18. Daron Craig
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    California sucks!


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