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Projects Building My First Roadster in San Francisco

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by J.Ukrop, Sep 7, 2020.

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  1. RodStRace
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    Jealous! I'll get there!

    Nice work! I assume the lines will be evenly spaced away from housing so they won't vibrate and wear.
    Bolts into housing, or welded studs and nuts? Either way, make sure of no leaks and easy removal and installation later.
     
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    Shame they aren't made in 5/16" and 3/8".
     
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    upload_2024-5-29_20-33-43.png upload_2024-5-29_20-33-43.png it's going to be hard to purge that brake line of ALL the air.
    Tom
     
  5. Tom, please explain why bleeding will be difficult?
    Thanks.
     
  6. Don't think you'll need clips. That blue tape seems to be holding fine.
     
  7. Curious why you didn't run the brake lines down the radius rods like the factory did. That way the mounting holes for the clips are all ready there.
     
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    Great question. I initially had it set up like that, but then I opted for a different routing based on Vern Tardel's book Ford Brakes: Hydraulic Brakes For Your Early Ford. I know Vern and I trust his judgement. Both routings should work well—the one I ultimately chose eliminated the additional bracket that I had made last fall. IMG_7389.jpg
     
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    When you run the brake line as shown on the rear axle, up over and down, you're going to have a hard time bleeding the right rear brake cylinder. The air in the brake line adjacent to the quick change will always try to rise.
    Tom
     
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    I understand that a high spot can allow fluid to flow under the air and leave it in the line. However, manufacturers have done exactly that for decades. You can argue they have pressure bleeders, but a vacuum, pressure or even two people can and do get the air out.
     
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    Ah, just flip the car over to bleed the right side. Easy Peasey.
     
  12. Manufacturers have been building them like this for years. Put speed-bleeders in the wheel cylinders and have at it. Bleeding will not be an issue... The rear brakes on the 9" in my roadster are like this and I had no problems getting them bled.
     
  13. J.Ukrop
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    You know when the thread goes quiet that I'm either sidetracked or getting a whole lot done. I'm happy to share that, this time around, it's the latter. The biggest thing? Putting miles on Version 1.5 while the weather is nice.
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    I've always loved this building in the Outer Richmond. It reminds me of my apartment building from college named Belvedere. IMG_2744.jpg
    On Saturday, I made the trip up to Petaluma to hang out with David. I haven't been to the shop since my surgery, and that made it even more special. Right when I arrived, I saw the roadster sans top and I couldn't stop smiling. "I need to go to the post office," David said. "Want to come with?" I couldn't say "Yes!" fast enough.
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    Roadster weather!
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    Back at the shop, we used a hole saw to remove the flange from the F-1 steering box.
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    The process was fairly quick, and the end result was clean. After leaving the shop, I spent the remainder of the day at the Time Flies motorcycle show at Thee Parkside in San Francisco. I was able to give several friends rides in the roadster, which they loved!
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    Best seat in the house!
     
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    The following morning, I motored out to Fort Point to meet the crew before their ride to Bolinas. IMG_2801.jpg
    The hot rod/chopper combo will always be a winner in my book.
     
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    Although my knee isn't quite up to kickstarting my XLCH, I'm optimistic that it will be there soon.
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    That morning, I was able to check off a 'banger Rod bucket-list item: riding in the rumble seat! And if by seat, I mean sitting on the rear crossmember. It was super fun—and the views weren't too bad either. I could definitely get used to this.

    Jason, the driver, is more than certified. He works at East Bay Speed & Custom and has owned a pair of killer Model T hot rods. The first was a chopped, 'banger-powered coupe, which was followed by a survivor pickup with a built flathead. He has a phaeton in the works, so stay tuned.
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    Jason's RPU at the "Night Moves" photo show opening last fall.
     
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    I spent the rest of the morning driving around the city, seeing the sights and enjoying the perks of an open car.
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    This mechanical-braked machine survived Lombard Street on a hot day after driving through the Richmond, Tenderloin, and Nob Hill in Saturday afternoon traffic. IMG_2829-1.jpg
    Celebratory Slurpee!
     
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    From the depths of my terrace garage, I finished the brake lines last night. Overall, I'm happy with how they look. I bought the tap at Lowe's tonight, so I should be able to complete all my clamping in the not-so-distant future.
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    With that, we're back up to speed! My roommate Benj was a huge help installing the driveline, and I'm really happy with how things are coming together.
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    It's really staring to look like a hot rod!
     
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    Oh, a few more odds'n ends.
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    Bob Jepson's Model A has been one of my favorites since I was 10 years old. Originally shot by Steve Coonan for American Rodder, this photo appeared in the table of contents of Rodder's Journal 26. I don't have it in front of me, but there's a great quote from Bob about parking it in his driveway as he mows his lawn. I don't have a lawn, but I've dreamt of having a traditional A-V8 in the driveway as I carry out day-to-day tasks ever since then. We've never been closer. IMG_0650 (1).jpg
    Next, we have this shot of the late Tom McMullen and his ex-wife, Rose. Longtime readers will recall my fascination with the flamed '32, which was rarely seen with a top. If I'm not mistaken, those Americans wrapped in piecrust slicks were taken from the Corvette. Rose was quite the talented driver, having competed at the drags in both the 'Vette and the roadster. This week, I was reading more into the McMullen publishing empire. Does anyone know if Rose McMullen is still around? rose in 32.jpg
     
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    Let's end tonight's update with a very special photo. What we have here is a genuine tintype taken by my friend Sean Mohoot of the Midnight Oil Collective. On Saturday, he set up shop at Thee Parkside, and I knew I had to take him up on the opportunity to shoot my car. I'll tell the full story at a later date, but this is too good not to share. No Photoshop, no filters. Just real, vintage equipment and 1800s techniques. IMG_2896.jpg
    Me and my roadster, summer 2024.

    That's all for tonight. With any luck, we'll have more updates happening soon! Thanks again for sticking with me!
     
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    Hoodlum having fun in all the best ways. Keep on grinding, Joey!
     
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  22. BigJoeArt
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    whoot! kicking ass and taking names over here! can't wait for the next step man.

    The brake lines look killer btw, obviously somebody doesn't understand how hydraulic pressure systems work. mine on the T winds like a Pennsylvania backroad, and it works fine.
     
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  23. Tim
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    Great batch of photos there man! You’re within striking distance now!
     
  24. RodStRace
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    That tintype is fantastic! Glad to hear you're on the mend and being able to enjoy the car, weather and city!
     
  25. It's like the car you build in grade 9 shop class when you're first learning to bend with a Brake and pop rivet versus the car you build with 10 years of metalworking experience.
     
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    Hey, Joey, although I have a overhead V8 in my roadster Now I do miss my banger powered roadster. tooling around the neighborhood Was just so fun.
     
  27. Jeff34
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    It's really getting close now, Joey! You'll be tearing up the streets with ver 2 by the end of summer at this rate.
     
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  28. I spent a significant portion of my 20's at Thee Parkside. The early 2000's had a so many things going on 17th St, the Rumblers used to do a night time car show there back when they were active in the Bay Area. I used to work at Bottom of the Hill, alongside my buddy who owns this tribute to the Red Baron, after my regular day job at the Dodge dealership

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  29. Six Ball
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    Great stuff! Getting close!
    Fort Point is a cool spot. We used to surf at Bolinas in the early to mid '60s. Mostly just us and a few really nice local kids. I hit a shark with my had while paddling out one day. Just a sand shark the great whites were at Stinson Beach. Or that is what we told ourselves. I wonder what Bolinas is like now. It was just a cool hidden little town back then.
     
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  30. GirchyGirchy
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    Bit late to the party, but the only tubing bender I used when forming Ni-Cu replacement lines for my OT truck was my fingers. The vibration relief coils were done by wrapping the tubing around an appropriately-sized socket. I went with good quality thick-wall tubing (SUR&R) and that's pretty much what they recommend. A nice, used US-made Blue Point flare kit made leak-free double flares at all joints...plus it was small enough to be used in situ. For the main rear line, I just ran a long length of bare straightened tubing through the frame rail, then flared it and bent it to fit. That avoided the hassle of trying to fish through a finished piece (might have been impossible without removing the bed, the originals had a coupler in that area).
     
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