Not that you'll find one ( without spending big money) , but the 67 Camaro 350 block has the provision for the "fresh air tube".
My Dad's last racecar engine was a 302 with a 4 bolt main 350 block and a early 302 Z/28 crank... TWR use to make spacer main bearings 350 main bearing size small journal crank size. This allowed allowed a 4 bolt main 302.
I have been thinking about a 4 1/8 bore Dart or WP block and 327 crank Sent from my iPhone using H.A.M.B.
I have a new 010 four bolt block, 4" bore, large journal 327 crank, 5.7 rods and NOS Fuelie pistons, 186 heads with 2.02 valves and a mild 350 HP cam, great little street engine, runs fantastic!
This is why I love small block Chevy motors..... So many different build combos to please everybody....... Now back to watching Kelly's Heros.... Woof woof!...
The real advantage of 327s over 350s back in the day was the much lighter crank and rods in REAL 327s. I don't think there is any advantage in running a large bearing 3.25 stroke crank over the 3.48 stroke 350 crank. IOW, the magic came from the lighter parts, not the stroke.
I sure like the sound a 327 makes @ 6400 or so rpm.... Especially with a solid lifter camshaft..... Backed by a 4-speed of coarse...
Unless you re building for a cubic inch to lbs drag class . Building a 327 is just a nostalgic number. If I wanted a haul ass high winder I would use a 400 block with a 350 crank with a good solid roller and some good heads and laugh at 327's. That 377 will surprise you make you forget about a 327. We would build them for round track use and change the casting number by the bellhousing to an 010 number from a 350.
Word^^^^. I like a 327 as much as the next guy. If you like the scream of a 327 at full song, a 377 will make you soil your depends... We used to run a roundy against a guy with a 377 w/180degree headers. Holy shit, the sound alone would pucker most competitors...
My 396 is actually a 496, internal balanced stroked 454. My 350 is actually a 377. the 377 is a pump gas friendly 9.25, makes a bunch more power than the 10.5 -1 327 it replaced.
Here is a better way of doing it... Watch at about 3:40 min. and listen to Steve's comment about 327's vs. other SBC's ...
This thread cracked me up when I read it. So many guys can tell you what's a waste of time and money. Hey to me it's my time AND money and I'll waste it how I want. With that said, if a guy is asking for help ..... Give it to him.... Don't tell him he is wasting time and money... Personally I like a 327 and the combo of a 377. Good luck...
With the money I just put into a set of double hump heads for my 327, I could have bought a new set of iron Dart or other probably superior performing heads. I think I made the right choice. Gary
I had a '67 283 with a large diameter crankshaft and the cutouts for 327 counterweights. I got the crank reground with the intention of putting it in an older 383. Surprise! It wouldn't rotate. I ended up sleeving two cylinders in the '67 block and using it.
I think the OP is dead on, a 327 is a "traditional engine" and this is a traditional forum, and this thread is in the "traditional hot rods discussion" section, and there is not a 377 or 383 out there made before 1965. Not even close. Better HP, sure, better RPMs, sure, better torque, sure, but I will never forget a 327 or a 283 for nostalgic purposes, myself. There is just something cool about having one between the rails, sorry.
There was a 377 ci motor made for the grand sport vettes for the early 60s... The motors used the cross ram Weber intake...
Yes! And if my memory serves me correct... I believe I saw an ad for a 3 1/2" stroker kit available for a 4" bore 327 block back in the day making about 351 cu. in. (Somebody help me.)
There were 5, special cast aluminum block, 4" bore 3.75 stroke. A pet project of Zora Duntov that recieved special and specific condemnation from GM higher ups. Completely different than a 400 SBC with 350 crank
So, I didn't mean to stir up a sh%* storm, only commenting on the direction of this thread. If we go back to the original question, here it is above. His question was answered in a number of ways, and I don't care myself, if he wants an inline 6 in it. Someone said that the supply of real 327s are not as scarce as he thinks? I don't know about that. I have one and I intend to use it in something, who know's, my wife might sell it after I'm dead and gone, but the fact remains, the 327 has its place in traditional hot rodding and that will never be replaced with "wildcat" engines. And ,yes, they have their place in hot rodding history too. They just aren't as cool in my eyes, or his buddies' eyes, evidently.
I tell everyone my 305 is a 327, and even though the dip stick is on the wrong side they just say cool.....lol free motor from a camero that was being junked
Merry Christmas. There is just something about the sound a solid lifter 283 , 302 or 327 makes when they are adjusted correctly. It's like when all the orchestra is in perfect harmony.
All I can say is I am very happy with the vintage 327 in my coupe. Plenty of power and sweet sounds. The rebuilt 327 cost about twice that of the base 350 crate motor. If I did it again I might try adding some early heads to a new 350 crate short block. I believe the magic folks remember of the 327 came from the heads and camshaft rather than the lack of cubic inches. Sent from my iPhone using H.A.M.B.
When I was in high school, every SBC was a Corvette or 375hp 327, every 348 was a 409, every Ford was a Police Interceptor or the FE's might be 427s. The few guys with Nopars just kept their mouths shut.
Apples to oranges really. I found what he said to be a silly remark myself...considering he's apparently comparing a stock component 327 (although a decently built one I'll assume) to a "400 CID Chevy(?)" built with an aftermarket block, aftermarket Alu heads with 2.20(?) valves and ports to feed them...along with a Super Vic single plane...and no doubt very good rods, pistons and aftermarket crank. (Assumption on my part there I admit...but reasonable to expect.) Amazing such a dog will hit 7000 rpm. LoL As a further thought...I wonder what the redline would be for a 327 with the same level of development today. My guess is it would just be starting to breathe properly at 7 grand. I'd love to see a decent 327 from back in the day up against a 400 GM engine from its day...and see which one fails first after a few pulls to 7 grand. He was trying to seem bright...but actually came off as kinda dull if you pay any attention to the specs. That 400 they are testing has the benefit of 50 years of additional development and major aftermarket support. If it can't beat an old 327 by NOW its really time to just give up and go Ford or something!
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