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BSA Pinewood Derby Car Builds....Slightly OT but it is RACING

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Pontiacres Ranch, Feb 25, 2010.

  1. Pontiacres Ranch
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    OK, at Tuesday's Pack Meeting we got the Official Pinewood Derby cars. You know....the shapeless block of pine, 4 wheels, 4 axle Pins. Im sure there are HAMBers with kids in Cub Scouts or were Cub Scouts, maybe even some who still are Scouts. Lets see some Race Cars.....Past and Present Builds. Ill post pics of my car circa 1976 and progress on my son's before Race Day on March 13. Let's See em, Logan and I need some Inspiration!
     
  2. melsfine39
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    OK Here's one my son and I did back in the 1980's. We used decals from ZZ Top model kit.
    Funny thing it ran faster backwards! He got 2nd in the race and won best design at local and district meets. Mel:D
     

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  3. Ebbsspeed
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    Here's some we've done over the years. Note the working LED head and tail lights on the Stars and Stripes car.
     

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  4. Pontiacres Ranch
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    That's CooL! Im digging for mine....I lll get a few pics as soon as I find it. It was kind of a Can Am car.
     
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  5. harrington
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    When I was a lid my father and I built a couple. One year we made an old school Indy car and bought the lead driver and engine details to glue on it. One year we made a new school Indy car, it looked like a 4x4. My son and I are in the planning stages right now and are going to start cutting this weekend. He wants to do either a truck or an old school streamliner. I will post up some of our build pictures.
     
  6. OldsRanch
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    My son and I will be headed to the bandsaw this weekend. He wants a pickup!

    Back in the mid 70's I came in second in our local group. Kid that won had a daddy with serious GM ties. When you count the time in the fab shop for the wheel and axle blueprinting, and the time in the wind tunnel, that kid's car probably cost $25,000.

    Dad said "Life ain't always fair. Get used to it".
     
  7. thepolecat
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    Think pinewood derby on steroids. My students compete in a program called F1 in Schools. We design CO2 powered cars in a CAD program them machine them in a CNC router and race them. It is like running a small buisness; they have uniforms, a display, a full profolio, and all the engineering background. The KIDS do it all- I am just the advisor who does the paper pushing.

    Take a look at our track, one of our past cars and some of our virtual wind tunnel runs.
     

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  8. G V Gordon
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    one from a couple years ago.

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  9. CharlieLed
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    These new ones are a lot different than those I built in the late 50s. We had a block with the passenger compartment notched out (no coupes), two crossbars to support the roofing nail axles, and skinny hard plastic wheels. The best you could do with the design is to make it rounded and look like a midget racer. My dad had a disc sander so I was pretty popular around pinewood derby build time!
     
  10. Pontiacres Ranch
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    Very COOL Co2 Cars, the technology. Just found my car, lost in the move for 4 years! I had to pulled the wheels off of it and put them on an Estes Rocket Powered AMT 55 Nomad that I used to run down the street on a string. Ill get some pics of it, in a few.
    We've got a build clinic this weekend at the Scout Cabin, Im gonna drag the little craftsman band saw down there.
     
  11. melsfine39
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    The coupe was made from a pinewood derby block of wood with the passenger notch, a piece that trimed off was used to make the coupe by glueing it on and shaping it to look like a coupe. Same pinewood kit used by BSA for years. Mel:D
     
  12. katzenhammer
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    These pics are from a recent derby held at Bluecat Motors in St. Paul

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  13. belair
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    Great memories-I liked the rocket derby too. The balsa was a lot easier to whittle on than that pine! Hope you and you son have a blast. I remember my dad helping me with mine back in the early 60s.
     
  14. Pontiacres Ranch
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    Here are Pics of my car from 1976 or 1977. I was too excited and didnt put it on the track right, I got knocked out in the 1st rounds. Logan is a bit more calm than I was, well see if he does better.
     

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  15. Pontiacres Ranch
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    Katzenhammer....is that Alumimum track some kind of a Rental? The scout tracks Ive seen are wood.
     
  16. katzenhammer
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    It is what the Boy Scouts let us use so I assume it is regulation. I never got to do this as a kid I was in 4-H so I am new to this. Had a blast though!
     
  17. scootermcrad
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    Did this belly tanker more than 20 years ago in cub scouts...

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  18. Von Hartmann
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    Dude, I lived for Pinewood! I won the pack meet and should have placed at regionals, with my Shark car. I got paired up 1st round with the kid who took the whole meet. I beat him the first race and he got me on the next 2. They had to go to the computer to see who won. That eliminated me completely. He went on to win the meet hands down..

    My parents were in charge of Pinewood. So every year, we went through all the left over kits and chose the best 4 wheels and axles, and then polished them on the drill press with graphite. I flipped the block upside down and drilled my own wheelbase, instead of using the little nail slots that came in it. Put most of the weight in the back and a little up front for stability. I got 4th one year but won 1st in best design. Every year after that, I placed top 3
     
  19. t-rod
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    Here's one I did a few years ago for a Dad's Unlimited class. It is BSA size since it has to fit on the same track and weight was upped to 16 oz. It was slow off the line probably because of the tall wheels but it maintained speed on the flat part of the track. It caught the other cars when they slowed down and won every heat.
     

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  20. There are several more really good Derby threads on the HAMB from the past. Just punch Pinwood into the search!
     
  21. Skeezix
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    This is great ! i just found mine from 1970 ish
    Funny the skull wold never fly today - Dad would be jailed and I'd be sent to therapy

    What a little hood I was - also the misc #s are funny now that I own a race car sticker business

    Now I want to build the first one
     

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  22. I was a Cub Scout in 1968/69 ... my father & I built a detailed replica of the STP wedge-shaped Lotus Turbine Indy car :cool: ... it was super fast! :) ... but unfortunately, we built it too realistic (i.e., too low) and the front axle always got hung up at about two feet from the finish line (at the apex of the final curve) :( ... I know I've got some photos of it somewhere.

    In December 2000 / January 2001, I "helped" build my nephew's racer ... a '32 5wd "Bonneville Competition Coupe":

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    It was chopped, channeled and painted '56 Cadillac 'Mandan Red' ... just like his Grandfather's Hot Rod (except gravity powered vice HEMI powered ;)) ... IIRC, he took first place in his class (he was a Tiger Cub) ... and third for the entire Cub Scout Pack (I still say those fathers cheated! :D) ... He also got an award for "Best Looking Car" (or something to that effect).
     
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  23. spobanz
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    I love that tradition, and I wish I still had my old one.
     
  24. Mine are out in the display case in the shop, my little brother still has his..............Scouts were a big part of my youth.
     
  25. Crazydaddyo
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    Here is one I did recently:

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  26. Peppered Rat
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    Our BSA builds...a helicopter and the princess "bling" car for my 3 year old daughter....

    We're having a real car show with our Pinewood Derby Next Saturday, March 6th. Scouts will get to vote on the "Coolest Car" and winner gets a prize! Anyone want to bring their rod? Derby is in Richmond, VA.
     

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  27. Pontiacres Ranch
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    Well....after looking a bunch Logan and I have decided to try to base our car on the Baron's Racing Team / Jack Moss Twin Engined Streamliner "2-Much" (page 44 in the "50 Years of Hot Rod Magazine hard back book)

    Ive drawn up some patterns in Illustrator and am about to start Cutting with the band saw.

    We've scammed a lead driver from one Hobby Lobby Pine Car and have scammed a Lead Blower and scoop from a Funny Car. That means Ill have to go back and get another Funny car for the 2nd mill.

    Pics as we make it happen.
     
  28. Q
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    My son's from last year:
     

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  29. No offense, but that kinda high tech approach misses the meaning of the event. Let teh kid learn files, rasps and sanding before gettin jiggy with CAD. Unless he is to that level already?
     

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