Technical BRAKES..........F100 brakes on 37 to 48 Ford spindles..

Not sure what you have there; but all the drums are slip-on on the outside of the hub.

F-100 hubs with F-100 drums or F-1 hubs with old F-1 or new Bronco drums work.

Any chance you have F-1 hubs and F-100 drums; that combo would come up short and not cover the shoes.

 

Rich B is the man when it comes to this topic, I replaced everything with the F1 setup on dropped 40 spindles. To take advantage of the bronco option of replacement drums in the future.

 

I be foggy remembering but wasn't there an ealy F2 [12"] that could be used? I think maybe brake cylinders were changed to F1 but don't remember what drums/hubs..

 

So F1 and Bronco drum are an acceptable combination? I'll give it a try. When I slide the drums on that I have, it's still short of getting to the backing plate by 1/2" or so, maybe a bit more. Thanks, I appreciate it.

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Ask for an '80 Bronco rear drum. There is about 7/16" difference between F-1 and F-100 hubs.

 

Yep, F1 is what I have.i don't recall who I got the package from as I've had it for quite a while. I sure appreciate the info.

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Here are pix of the home made driver I mentioned above:

 

So, if I would have used F100 stuff, the overall width would be 1"or so narrower?

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Sure; about 7/16" per side. Barely noticeable, unless maybe you're rubbing fender lips on a low '33-'34 or something similar.

 

I’m in the process of changing over to the ‘53 (ish) brake setup on my ‘40. I’ve got everything collected except the hubs.

If someone has a serviceable pair I would be greatly interested.

Having owned and driven a ‘53 F100 I know the brakes are adequate but not in the heavy towing department.

 

sir, you should post you need in the "Wanted" section of the forum. and check the "For Sale" section
EDIT: here you go:
https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/f-100-ford-hubs.1187387/#post-13611882

 

Thanks bud!


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Bump.

Thanks for this thread I have '53 F100 brakes installed on my '40. Not tested yet.

And, the original front brakes found a new home with someone who needed 'em.

 

help,i am in the process of converting my 46 mercury to the f100 front brakes.i got to the point when putting the drum on it does not cover the shoes.bearing kit was bought from speedway.after removing backing plate noticed the inner bearing hits the seal hub and does not allow the hub to go back far enough to bring drum back to backing plate. can someone give me some advice.also what should the deminison of the f100 hub be?the one i have measures 4 5/8"end to end

 

Did you grind the inner radius of the bearing to match the spindle? Even if not done a matching drum and hub will still fit.

Do possibly have F-1 hubs? There is a difference in the offset between them. Another clue, F-1 center register smaller diameter too.

 

i did notdo any grinding,my hubs have a dimple in them and measure 2 3/4" as you have in picture #1.which of the two pictures are the f100?

 

how do i post pictures?

 

The bottom picture is F-100 and the top picture is F-1; sounds like you have F-1 hubs. '80 Bronco REAR will drums work on F-1 hubs (since F-1 drums are obsolete).

The inner edge of the inner bearing is customarily ground to fit the radius of the spindle and seat fully. The right bearing in the picture has been ground.

If you are having trouble the picture is probably too big and needs to be resized.

 

I replaced bearings twice and never had to make the inside radius larger; it was already large and cleared fine.

 

is there an 11'' drum for a 2'' shoe, keeping it 1954 f100... that has the 5.5 pcd and the correct register,
that happens to be finned iron?
Mopar Rear Drum Brake 11 X 2 complete set New H/D Finned Drums Prem Linings 2.0" | eBay

66 f100 drum spec
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inner bearing spec
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hub grease seal
Victor seal 49195 or National 450461
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for those who don't normally do decimal....
1 9/16 = 1.5625
so if my spindles are in fact 1.56, i need
National 473441

 

1966 FORD F-100 5.8L 352cid V8 Wheel Cylinder | RockAuto

so where some confusion may arise.
1953 to 1967 front f100 wheels cylinders are the same - same bore
buyer's Guide : CENTRIC 13468011 Wheel Cylinder
FORD F-100 1953-1967
FORD F-250 1966-1972
FORD F-350 1968-1971

the 4wd is different
uyer's Guide : CENTRIC 13468006 Wheel Cylinder

FORD BRONCO 1966-1975
FORD E-100 1969-1974
FORD E-200 ECONOLINE 1969-1974
FORD E-300 ECONOLINE 1969-1974
FORD E-350 1984-1994
FORD F-100 1966-1972
FORD F-250 1961-1965
FORD F-350 1984-1989

WAGNER WC35325 {#4796092, F35325} Info
FitsFront Wheel Cylinder-Right 4WD/AWD,1-1/8" BORE
orFront Right; 4WD; Bore 1-1/8 IN

has the 1 1/8 bore

hmm,
66 rear brake drum 11 by 1 3/4''
FORD F-100 1959-1975
so 59 is the dawn of the 9'' axle and all f100's til 75 use the funky 11'' brakes

so, what is te bore of the brake master..... and when does it switch to a dual circuit
and power assistance, and is it possible to get a comple stock brake system
using a dual circuit power brake master and a 55 f100 front backplate, with a 9'' rear

66 is single
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what is its bore?
= 1'' they are all 1 inch
single
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68-72 drum brake power assisted
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1''

notes, front to rear brake
friction material difference front to rear 25 percent more to front.
so if you have 10 by 2.5'' rear drums = no good get rid

 

this is what i got.are these f100 or f1? if they are f1 will they work if i grind the inter race of the inter bearing ? will a die grinder do that job?

 

Those are F-1 hubs.

The assembled picture is looks like an F-100 drum on your F-1 hubs.

Won't work; get yourself some Bronco drums as I mentioned in post #75.

The bearing rework is just to let the bearing seat over the radius on the spindle snout, this will not move the hub inward any noticeable amount.

A die grinder with a stone will work; the bearing is pretty hard and will chip a carbide burr. If you chose to do this; tape the bearings up and clean well before and after removing the tape.

 

Have the same system. Lots of different combinations that have different stacked dimensions. I ended up not being able to get a split pin in the castle nut. Swapped it fo a Fordson castle nut instead of Model A and all was well.


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More Information for SKF BR14116 (rockauto.com)
already have the chamfear

skf!
is it enough?

it doesn't come up in the rock auto search when simply entering 14116
you needed the BR in front


wheel bearings from a 1980 dodge d400
SKF BR14116 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} Info
Front Outer; 5000 lb. Axle
that makes sense as when its a wheel bearing it is an outer wheel bearing so does not need the chamfear.
when used as a 4wd transfer case output shaft bearing, its don't need it either.

 

damn that was quick!
didn't know was going f100 brakes thursday morning....
got a hankering on running the 56 f100 rear axle......

 

No it isn't. Couple pictures detailing this for those who feel the mismatch is something to be dealt with.

 

thank you taking the time to take the pics and post them.
thank you

p.s. what is the going rate on an international usps small box?
i also need the 473441 's

 

any in depth shots of the spindle clearancing for f100 wheel cylinder

 

The grey spindle is the minimal approach to clearance; while the magazine picture is more heavy handed.

The brake hoses you use may also determine extent of clearance needed. A BH58536 or BH381172 hose has an offset hex and reduces the needed cut.

Note: the grey spindle is ground on both sides of the kingpin boss for uniformity of appearance ; only the rear corner needs the clearance.