Ross Racing Hello everybody! First things first. I’ve been a member of this forum since 2013 and the only reason I joined then was because I was looking for someone to build a 394 for my dad’s 1963 Starfire. I came across a GoodGuys article about Ross Racing Engines of Niles Ohio and that is what lead me to this site. In 2013 I read all the great comments from the people on this site about Tony. Without hesitation I called Tony up and talked to him about building a 394 for the 63 Starfire. We talked for an extended amount of time and I knew he was way more knowledgeable than myself about these engines. Of course it didn’t take much to know more than myself as this was my first encounter with this engine. I told him what I was wanting and he made some suggestions and I told him to send me a build sheet and I would look it over and call him back. I received it in email form and looked it over and called him back to place the order. This was for a complete engine. He required half down and the other half on completion. This was Nov. 2013. He told me he had several engines in front of me and I told him that was OK because I had plenty of work to do before needing it. He said it would take in the neighborhood of 2 years. I accepted that. 2 years later I call him and ask where he was at on my engine. He said he was working on it. I’m going to make this as short as possible but I made call after call for 4 more years. I received excuse after excuse from “I don’t have any help” to “I’m racing with my daughter because I don’t get to spend much time with her.” The excuses kept coming. In 2018 I ask for my money back and he said “I don’t have it. He said I will have your engine “just give me some time”. I called the spring of 2019 and he said he “things are tough here and I hate to ask you for more money” that’s when I told him he wasn’t getting any more money until completion. He said he was working on it and I told him I wanted a time frame. He said “I will have it finished by the end of September 2019. I said OK but I want a letter of Guarantee. He agreed but that letter was a beast to get from him. Nonetheless I did get it. Now we go to October 7 when I called Tony and ask if the engine was ready. He said “No I ran into a problem and the valve covers are hitting the rockers”. I said Tony “ the deal was September 30th and it’s already the 2nd week into October. He said “I’m working on it but you calling isn’t getting it done any faster”. I had a few choice words because I feel 6 years is way too long to have to wait for an engine and he either couldn’t or wouldn’t give my money back. On October 18th Tony called and said my engine was ready to pick up. Little did he know I was almost to his shop when he called. It’s a 8 hour ride for me so I decided to go see what was going on. I arrived to be met by a man that was irritated and disrespectful. We had a few words and I ask to see the engine. This is where that me not knowing these engines was a big mistake. I looked at it and told him that this is suppose to be a complete engine. I said Tony that water pump is different than mine “Oh they all interchange”. I said Tony these valve covers won’t work due to no vent in the passenger side for the breather hose and mine are not bolted in the center. “Oh I vented it in the rear and you don’t need to run the hose on the breather. The thing that should have tipped me off was when he told me that a “regular 394 oil filter wouldn’t work on this engine due to high oil pressure. “ “He said it takes this K&N filter that’s on it because if a use anything else it will fail”. I told my dad that I wasn’t comfortable with the whole situation and that’s when Tony said “if you don’t take it there is no return of your deposit. Going back and forth with each other I finally talked to my dad and he said well it’s not feasible to give up $6500 and I hate to give him $6500 more but he sort of has us in a fowl. My gut feeling was don’t take it but I knew the end result of that decision so I agreed to take it. We went up front and I got my checkbook out and he said “I only take cash and you knew that”. I said I knew nothing of it because you took my deposit in check form. Anyways I ran around Niles on a Friday evening trying to find a bank that would cash an out of state check. Didn’t happen so I returned back to Ross and Tony said well I’ll take the check but I’m keeping the engine until the check clears and I will ship it to you. “It will save you the taxes by shipping it as well.” I received the engine 3 weeks later and this is where I find out that he has built the wrong engine. I called him and he said I built what you ordered. No he didn’t and he took advantage of me not knowing these engines. Over$13,000 in an engine that’s not complete nor the right year for the car. Sorry for being so long but this is a very short version of my story with Tony. I have all the emails and documentation to prove what I’m saying is true. After doing a little digging I have found many more people that Tony has done this way. I also have pics and as we all know every story has 2 sides. I’m not trying to smear his business as he is doing a good job of that himself, but rather I’m merely giving people an encounter I had with Tony and Ross with Ross Racing Engines. I feel it’s only fair if this site lead me to him by all the good article’s such as the Good Guys one then I should warn people of the many others like myself that are out THOUSANDS of dollars and either receiving no engine or the wrong engine or just maybe whatever he wants to give you because he already has your money. You’ve be WARNED!!