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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Mike Colemire, Jan 22, 2023.

  1. Mike Colemire
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    1. Redoing my bead roller, Woodward Fab, got it braced so there is no flex and I got a question on the motor. I have 2 identical motors, they came off some kind of machine don't really know what kind. I had one hooked up direct and even though it's variable speed it was way to slow. Also they are not reversible or at least I don't know how to do it. I'm going to ad sprockets and a chain and try to figure out how to wire a foot pedal in, the box it's got has a know to control speed and to shut it off so I figured I'd eliminate it and wire in a pedal with variable speed. I'll try and post pics and maybe somebody will recognize these motors and shed some light on how to wire them.im no electrician. Also would 10 to 18 or so rpm be about right, I'm using bicycle sprockets and I need to figure out what size on those also.
     
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  2. Mike Colemire
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    Hope this is pics.
     

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    IF they have enough torque you can speed it up by using the bigger pulley on the bottom/motor instead of the top/roller.

    Then install a variable speed knob to slow it down to were you want it to operate.

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  6. Marty Strode
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    This is what I use on my DC motored bead roller. There is one on EBAY for 200. The good thing about DC, is you can slow it down without a loss of power. IMG_9915.JPG IMG_9916.JPG
     
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  7. Mike Colemire
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    I have the varible speed know on that box you see in the pic and I also ordered a pedal that is varible speed. I figured it give me better control. I need to make a trip to Tractor Supply and find some sprockets and chain.
     
  8. billfunk29
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    I have a hose and pressure switch on mine. I blow in the hose to make it go. Both hands on the panel, both feet on ground. It helps on big stuff.
     
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    pic?
     
  10. oliver westlund
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    I used bicycle sprockets, works great, will likely want some kind of tensioner setup
     
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  11. oliver westlund
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    I also used a drill for my motor so its reversible. Bought a sewimg machine pedal for 3 bucks at goodwill. Works great
     
  12. alanp561
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    What size drill motor? I've got a big old Milwaukee Hole Hog that I never use that makes monster torque. Reckon I could adapt that?
     
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  13. randombob
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    I can second this. The ass end of an 18 speed works pretty good for this, comes with a tensioner.
     
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  14. oliver westlund
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    Yeah i used a big ole corded unit. Loads of torque. You want something with variable speed and drills tend to mostly all have that. Ive also seen fellers use corded pipe threaders but those arent as cheap 2nd hand. Another upside to the drill is you just weld your sprocket to something with angles on it like an allen key, then tighten it in the chuck. I even used a drill with a side grab handle, removed the grab handle and i screwed all thread into the hole. Then made a bracket to mount that to. I can still pull the drill off and use it for something else if i wish
     
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    For reversing the motor I picked up a used drum switch for practically nothing on Craigslist.

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  16. Mimilan
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    A 12v winch is an easy method [with a 218:1 reduction planetary gearbox] for a bead roller

    D/C motors can be connected with a simple relay
    cheap here : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CD9SJ4S/?tag=atomicindus08-20

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    The toggle switch can be substituted for a rocker "foot pedal" switch .
     
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    I have used an electric (AC) garage door unit that has the reverse already built in. I used an old bicycle sprockets and chain. I previously had the same setup Mimilan showed using a Maxwell windlass.
    It worked well but keeping the battery charged was a pain.
     
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    Yeah, the mounting bracket for that Hole Hog is gonna have to be stout. I've gone for a ride on that thing when a drill bit got stuck. Thought I'd broken my arm.
     
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    I’m confused Marty, the controller says AC and the motor looks like an AC motor (can’t see the name plate) but you mentioned DC.
    Would you clarify for me?
    Thanks.
     
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  20. Budget36
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    Those 1/2 drills have some kick to them. My dad welded bolt threads into a 1/2inch piece of water pipe about 2 foot long for when we were abusing the drill with big holes. He had a 1 by with a chain bolted to it and a hook on the other end, we looked like monkeys banging footballs drilling holes. The 1 by with the chain was to leverage and press on the drill motor, the cheater pipe was to keep from breaking bones.

    Anyways… I have a couple of AC gear reduction motor assemblies I think both are 1/2 HP, now I guess I need to buy a bead roller and put them to a different use than weathering away!
     
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  21. Marty Strode
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    Budget, it is a Niagara machine, and yes it has a DC motor. The foot pedal operates only as a switch, with the speed controlled by the rheostat. IMG_7843.JPG IMG_9923.JPG
     
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  22. oliver westlund
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    Been there myself!
     
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  23. Mike Colemire
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    Smallest chain and sprockets at T S is a 40 pitch. I have 1 5 1/2 in pulley off a bicycle and some chain but it is a 25 pitch, figures. I see the one above has the large pulley on top, I need to speed mine up so I'll have to have the larger one on the bottom. I'll have to use TS sprockets in order to get hubs to fit the shafts.
     

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