I have a chance to buy these from a moving sale. I searched and searched and not find anything on this.... The price is right, but is this the good stuff, or the crappy stuff re-sold by someone else. Thanks guys! Jay
The bead roller looks kind of weak. I think I would pass on it, but the stretcher/shrinker might be worth your bucks. Do both sets of jaws come with it?
Yes the shrink and stretch jaws are with it. The part number for the Irwan bead roller is ISO-MBR-24 if their web site help you know better what it is. I know everyone sayes the HF roller is crap... So I know I don't want to buy them... I need a roller for a few small jobs....
So if HF is cheaper than their asking price, would I be better off at my local HF? by working over, you mean adding beef, like many others here have done? Thanks,
The american made shrinker and stretchers are made by Lancaster. Most places sell them in the $170.00-$190.00 price range. You didn't say what they are asking but maybe that will give you something to go by. Make sure you know what you are buying. I've seen guys try to pass the imports off as American made for more money.
Sealed: They are asking $150 for the Shrinker/Stretcher. it is listed as one body w/ 2 jaws. The Bead roller is offered at $250. 24" 20ga steel rated, only the 1/4" roller. They also have a HF 12" roller with all the sizes for $75. www.irvansmith.com bead roller retails at $335. Shrinker/shretcher retails at $170 for the body & Shinker + $70 for the Stetcher die
Irvan-Smith makes good stuff, and it's all American made. The "Irvan" is Vic Irvan, father of NASCAR racer Ernie, and fabricator supreme.
I have the electric version of that bead roller and use it on 18 gauge all the time it is not like the HF one at all. I also have the english wheel from them it is getting close to 15 years old and still works fine. They are good people and stand behind their products for what you will be paying you can't go wrong RED
I dunno... I bought the shorter-length HF bead roller, planning on using the dies, gears and blocks as a donor for the one I want to make. I paid less than $75 on sale. That's a bunch of dies for the price. -Brad
On the hf dies, you had better be rolling light weight stuff and be real gentle with them made out of junk metal, they will nick and and distort. what redhumphries said.
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I get it on the HF. I need/want to make a few beads on my firewall and floor to finnish up my sedan. Some have said the Irvan looks week... Any other thoughts? Richard D: I read your post about your bead roller... Real nice job you boys did...
Nothing to it, we just followed the directions. I think the kit was $399 with a choice of one die set.
I was able to get a great deal on the Irvan-Smith roller and the shinker /stretcher. RichardD: When do you need to use the HEM roll? My new roller came with the 4 parts. Thanks for the input guys!!! I have some playing to do....
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