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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by HaroldDegand, Jul 14, 2018.

  1. You said you were going to restore it. I don't know about the European deuce but with the American version, if it doesn't have a V8 emblem on the headlight bar then it came with a 4 cylinder. So if you do restore it, shouldn't you use a 4 cylinder instead of a V8?
     
  2. No idee for the moment
     
  3. You're right. It's a 4 cylinder car.
    With a small 123 c.i.
    The guy who bought it in 1976 (without engine) wanted to put a flathead v8 in it.
    Not for customize, but to have more h.p.
    I decided to continue this way.
     
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  4. 1976 you say Harold o_O. Then that,s one that Mr Mahy missed :oops::p.
     
  5. Exact ! ;-) By the way, I missed the auction on these euro deuce from Mahy two weeks ago.

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  6. Garpo
    Joined: Jul 16, 2016
    Posts: 140

    Garpo

    Amazing find. Interesting to see al the little detail differences in the French manufacture
    I would think about keeping the trunk - it would be a source of much attention.
    Mine; Garpo
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  7. I thought you might find this interesting, I made it for someone changing over an American B to a V8:

    The following changes need to be made when replacing a Model B with a V8 (21 stud, others will require a few more things):

    Of course engine, motor mounts

    Muffler and exhaust system before muffler (same after)

    Radiator

    Radiator support rods

    Engine steady rods

    Hubcaps

    Starter switch (if it is early B with pull starter)

    Transmission (gears interchange but cases are different)

    Choke (B is a cable, V8 is a rod)

    Accelerator linkage

    Engine splash pans

    Gas line needs to be routed from right on Model B to left on V8

    The B will have a few extra holes in the firewall pad from mounting the 4 cyl engine snubber

    Need to add emblem to headlight bar

    Need to accept the fact that the serial number (VIN) is for a 4 cylinder

    Charlie Stephens
     
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  8. Deuce Lover
    Joined: Feb 15, 2009
    Posts: 513

    Deuce Lover
    Member

    Here is one currently for sale in France.I pulled the pic off the ad.Not mine.

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. kiteloop
    Joined: Sep 1, 2013
    Posts: 24

    kiteloop
    Member
    from chatel

    Oui peux tu svp me mettre en contact
    Merci
    Hgonon@wanadoo.fr
     
  10. Thanks Charlie for the infos.
    The engine I bought from the last owner is a 24 studs, crab style distributor and single belt.
     
  11. RoadsterDom
    Joined: Oct 10, 2017
    Posts: 47

    RoadsterDom

    Nice find , I saw you missed out on the Mahy cars on the euro duces discussion about them , glad you were able to find something . How are you planning to replace the internal wooden structure ?
     
  12. Yes that was pitty. The second one was all original, never restored 100% complete. No part missing.
    But no VIN plate and no title.

    The week before the Mahy's sale, I went to Amsterdam for the Den Hartogh Museum sale.
    Only for pleasure...
    More than 220 Ford and Lincoln and 50 motorcycles are gone in auction in a day !
    8 '32 were for sale !

    A V8 woody, V8 5w coupe, V8 B400, a V8 tudor modified in cabriolet, a 4 banger fordor modified to run with wood gas, a pick-up, and ..... 2 roadster : a 4 banger and a V8 !

    https://www.bonhams.com/auctions/25077/?category=results#/aa0=1&w0=list&aj0=lot_number_asc&m0=0

    Don't know how restore the 4 doors body for the moment.
    It looks nice, but I need to remove the body to look carefully under the floor.
    For example, the fuel tank is so rusty I can put my hand through it !
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    The interior is in bad shape. Squirrels made their nest in it.
    I found some nuts under the rear bench...

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  13. Nice one Sheldon. Your at an advantage there :cool: . Leboncoin is a hopeless site if you can,t read French. I hardly ever get further than "voitures"
    I could,nt find this one. So what is the asking price ? I must say i manage to get around on Ebay France. Probably because most Ebay sites are set up the same way.
     
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  15. RoadsterDom
    Joined: Oct 10, 2017
    Posts: 47

    RoadsterDom

    I was interested in the roadsters from the meuseum but they went for too much money and I couldn’t convince my self how much of them was original .

    Let me know how you get on, I know the wood for the Europeans is a lot more structural than in the American cars .

    It’s probably too far to ship but I have a spare original 32 tank in good condition here in the UK along with a number of other bits if you want to stick with Henry parts .
     
  16. What do you mean ? Did you have doubdt ?
     
  17. RoadsterDom
    Joined: Oct 10, 2017
    Posts: 47

    RoadsterDom

    Nothing concrete just a nagging doubt
     
  18. Deuce Lover
    Joined: Feb 15, 2009
    Posts: 513

    Deuce Lover
    Member

    I was at the auction and looked the 32's over very well.I opened all the hoods and open and shut all the doors.The 5W had very poor bodywork done to it.Only the B400 did not have the orig engine and was a very amateur restoration.All the other V8's had the orig blocks and alu pans.Intakes were there but did not have the correct fuel pumps or carbs.The German conv had the correct distributor.The pickup and woody I thought were the best deals.I'm sorry I did not go higher on the pickup.It went for 13500 Euros + fees.
     
  19. When i visited the museum some 10 years ago. The guide told me that most work at the cars at the car museum of Mr.Piet Hartogh here in Holland was mostly done by his own personnel
    (of his own truck company) and even how good willing they were, they were not professional car restorers, so restoration was sometimes of amateur quality.
     
  20. sololobo
    Joined: Aug 23, 2006
    Posts: 7,880

    sololobo
    Member

    omg cool, thanx for sharing.
     
  21. Work of the day ...

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  22. edwardlloyd
    Joined: Aug 2, 2003
    Posts: 2,034

    edwardlloyd
    Member
    from Germany

    There are still loads of them out there.

    Sent from my SM-G935F using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  23. edwardlloyd
    Joined: Aug 2, 2003
    Posts: 2,034

    edwardlloyd
    Member
    from Germany

    If you need any help, I'm not too far away. I have some original 32 parts.

    Sent from my SM-G935F using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
  24. Thanks ! I'll continue to pull apart.
    Then I'll make a list.
    I know I need 4 houdaille shocks with the dog bones.
     
  25. Work in progress ...

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  26. kimfmx
    Joined: Oct 25, 2015
    Posts: 156

    kimfmx

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  27. Looks great !

    Thanks for the advice ! Do you have the part reference for the MG schocks ?
     
  28. Would the MG shocks ( Friction i guess ? ) be the same as Austin A40 Somerset ?
     
  29. Garpo
    Joined: Jul 16, 2016
    Posts: 140

    Garpo

    Same type, could be identical. Armstrong shocks were also used on British Fords. Mk1/2 Zephyr & Consul and 105E Anglia. All rear shocks. Differences in the lever arms and internal valving, but generally interchangeable. Use pair from the same donor. Hope this helps.
    Garpo
     
  30. I need original front cross member.
    The chassis must be checked on the Celette bench.
    Where can I find specs for it ?
     

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