I will have to ask about it. She just called it a sting ray with no mention of the engine. She knew the engine in the pontiac because the 421 emblems were removed. She was looking for them thats what led to finding the 396 one. Im on emergency call for the hospital for the next week. Im going to try and go back this weekend with my pontiac friend. He wants to help me get the door open to get the vin.