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Technical Banger (AR) with mechanical brakes installing a V8 3 speed with a Clings adapter RHD

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Brendan1959, Jun 14, 2016.

  1. Brendan1959
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    IMG_3966.JPG IMG_3967.JPG IMG_3968.JPG IMG_3969.JPG IMG_4049.JPG IMG_4069.JPG IMG_4077.JPG IMG_4078.JPG IMG_4079.JPG IMG_4080.JPG IMG_4081.JPG IMG_4082.JPG IMG_4083.JPG IMG_4084.JPG IMG_4085.JPG IMG_4086.JPG IMG_4087.JPG IMG_4088.JPG IMG_4089.JPG IMG_4090.JPG IMG_4091.JPG IMG_4092.JPG IMG_4093.JPG IMG_4094.JPG IMG_4103.JPG IMG_4108.JPG IMG_4110.JPG IMG_4111.JPG IMG_4112.JPG IMG_4113.JPG IMG_3966.JPG IMG_3967.JPG IMG_3968.JPG IMG_3969.JPG IMG_4049.JPG IMG_4069.JPG IMG_4077.JPG IMG_4078.JPG IMG_4079.JPG IMG_4080.JPG IMG_4081.JPG IMG_4082.JPG IMG_4083.JPG IMG_4084.JPG IMG_4085.JPG IMG_4086.JPG IMG_4087.JPG IMG_4088.JPG IMG_4089.JPG IMG_4090.JPG IMG_4091.JPG IMG_4092.JPG IMG_4093.JPG IMG_4094.JPG IMG_4103.JPG IMG_4108.JPG IMG_4110.JPG IMG_4111.JPG IMG_4112.JPG IMG_4113.JPG IMG_3966.JPG IMG_3967.JPG IMG_3968.JPG IMG_3969.JPG IMG_4049.JPG IMG_4069.JPG Hello All
    Thought I might share my gearbox conversion in my 1928 Model A (AR).
    I wanted to keep the mechanical brake setup so had to keep the original clam shell set up.
     
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  2. Brendan1959
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    Not sure how I managed to have multiple copies of pictures?
     
  3. Brendan1959
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    Uni rebuild pics, simple once you have done one.
    Pics tell the story
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  4. olskool34
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    Why did you have to redrill bolt holes? Mine went in with no mods at all......
     

  5. Brendan1959
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    I reused the original AR clamshell, as it only has 4 bolt mounting and the V8 has 6 I had to re drill the box to suit.
    Brendan
     
  6. olskool34
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    Is there something special about the AR clamshell in relation to the brakes? I am still running mechanical brakes and I used a v-8 clamshell. No mods necessary.
     
  7. Brendan1959
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    AR brakes operate off the clamshell and have a 3 piece cross shaft as you can see below (stolen pics) there are no separate park brake shoes in the rear brakes, the park brake lever operates all brakes.
    ARBrake01.jpg s-l1600.jpg
     
  8. adam401
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    This is definitely the first time I've seen someone do this swap and go through that much effort to retain the mechanical brakes. I didn't know the differences with the AR setup. I ran mechanical brakes on a 31 av8 which didn't require all that work.
    Very cool. Thanks for posting I love seeing this stuff!
     
  9. Brendan1959
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    IMG_4119.JPG IMG_4120.JPG For some reason the clings instructions said the pedal shaft had to be installed before the clutch shaft.
    I did it the other way round as I did not want to fit the pedals until the box was installed, I seemed to work OK
     
  10. The37Kid
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    ^^^^^^^^ Thanks for the detailed post above. There are two AR Fords in the shop were I work two days a week, do you plan to used the AR or A drums? That original AR setup just looks crazy to me. Bob
     
  11. Brendan1959
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    AR drums were not available when I rebuilt the brakes, so I used A drums, I recall the fronts are the same A or AR,
    the rears I used A drums and AR backing plates, no extra park brake mechanisms, I also have a flathead Teds setup installed.
    Here in Australia we need to do a brake test as part of the roadworthy certificate before they will grant registration, my tester said the brakes tested better than many modern cars. He used some sort of unit that measured how hard you pressed the brake pedal and how quickly you slowed.
     
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  12. The37Kid
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    OK, just double check everything, Ford upgraded the brakes for a reason. Bob
     
  13. Brendan1959
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    I have read somewhere the reason for the change was to some government "experts" decided park brakes needed to be separate from the main breaking system.
     
  14. olskool34
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    Ah I see now, never knew the AR brakes worked off the clamshell. Learn something new everyday!
     

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