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Technical Ball joint spacers

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by JimboSlice423, Jan 4, 2016.

  1. JimboSlice423
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    My father-in-law and I saw a '63 fairlane at good guys with 4" ball joint spacers. My father-in-law has a '63 fairlane and we can not find anything about them online. Any one know where you can buy them? Thanks.
     
  2. You don't want to find any... those were banned due to being very dangerous.
     
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  3. Joliet Jake
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    No, sorry I don't, I can't recall where I got mine but they did not work on my 62 Chevy II. I ended up putting a straight axle in it.
     
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  4. Hnstray
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    X 2 .....

    Ray
     
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  5. fridaynitedrags
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    A sophomore fabricator could make some spacers that would bolt to the control arm and accept a stock ball joint.
     
  6. Jalopy Joker
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    not much available for your ride without spending big bucks - maybe have a custom set of front springs made to raise it some
     
  7. low budget
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    Are you wanting to raise the front end? Not sure why it would have had 4??? you should only need one ball joint spacer at the top on each side if you went that route.........."spring spacers" or bigger springs alone would give you some lift especially on a setup like that where the spring sits on top of the upper control arm.
     
  8. Smart Patrol
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    I have a new set for sale, check your pm's
     
  9. JimboSlice423
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    Not 4 spacers lol 4 inch spacers.
     
  10. 62hotcat
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    My son used to run balljoint spacers on his 62 pontiac catalina. Upper control arm bent from them.
     
  11. chevydave1965
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    Not a fan of spacers
     
  12. birdman1
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    i cannot understand why you would think them unsafe. all it does is make the spindle longer, right?? I can see the balljoint is 4" away from the upper control arm now, but it is still a solid "shaft". please explain this to me LOL
     
  13. glrbird
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    Are we talking about the ones the Super stock racers used to get more travel out of the suspension?
     
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  14. oldolds
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    Approx 1968-70 there were ball joint spacers that were not made right. . If I remember correctly they were cast aluminum and broke on quite a few cars. As a result all were banned by NHRA. I remember that it happened quite suddenly. I had a friend that was a division points racer, Friday night they were ok, Sunday morning you couldn't run the car with them. Quite a few guys were in a pinch that day.
     
  15. Atwater Mike
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    Geometry compromisal...
     
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  16. Better springs GOOD. Spacers on ball joints BAD!
     
  17. Yep ^^^^
    you don't buy them you make them if you must risk you neck.
     
  18. town sedan
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    Why not several of the twist in coil spring expanders in each spring? Not saying it would be safer, but might be more traditional...., that's a joke, son.
    -Dave
     
  19. low budget
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    oops, my bad, I see that now that I look back:D
    Ive ran aluminum ones on a 55 chevy I had......still got one odd one of the old c type.
     
  20. There actually was a time that they were used quite regularly. Where the problem lies is that they make an extra joint where one is not necessary. With every extra joint you have one extra place for a failure, compound that with improper maintenance, installation or manufacture and you are asking for a problem.

    Think of it this way how often do you check your lug nuts? A loose lug nut won't make nearly as much difference as a missing nut on a ball joint spacer and the ball joint spacers are not as easy to check as your lug nuts.
     
  21. IIRC, there were several issues with these. First, the aluminum versions truly were dangerous; a break there at speed was a disaster. Second, the Ford ball joints of the era only had enough articulation for the stock suspension travel. Alter the geometry too much and ball joint breakage could and sometimes did result, even if the spacer didn't break. I believe that there were some lower ball joint failures with these, that was a second reason they were banned. This was even an issue with the 'Shelby Drop' for lowering; at one time there were angled spacers available for the top ball joint if doing this with stock control arms to prevent failure. I know that Global West changed the ball joint mount angle to address this on their aftermarket control arms.
     
  22. 302GMC
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    ^^^^
    Those upper loaded ball joint front suspensions weren't worth a damn. Mustangs, Falcons, Chevy IIs, Fairlanes ate a pair of upper joints a year. All you had to do to break them was back up fast & hit the brakes.
     
  23. Larry T
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    Ball joint spacers did not raise the front end. They did let the car rise more on launch before the upper A-arm topped out against the frame rail.
     
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  24. On a car with the spring above the upper control arm (like OPs early Fairlane), they would raise the car.
     
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  25. wheelguy
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    I ran the old cast jobs on a 55 Nomad back in 1966 > YEP> BROKE ONE with heavy springs and used ball joints> Safety wasn't much of a priority in those days> I saw guys wire in wooden blocks between the upper and lower a frames = AKA "DEATH WISH"
    Later ran some in a 62 Bel Air 409 without problems using all new ball joints.
    Some guys got into problems when they "trimmed" the outer edge of upper A arms for wheel clearance.
    I later had a set of METAL ones someone made up > NO PROBLEMS.
    I THINK the BILLET style available these days are PROBABLY fairly safe if ball joints are new and don't go way overboard on coil spring pressure.
    If you use the correct weight & length spring with risers you can achieve the raised look (if that's what you are after) and still have a good ride with travel in the suspension.
     
  26. JimboSlice423
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    Thanks everyone! So much information! Hahaha
     

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