Thanks guys for your input and pic's. Of all forms of auto "stuff" these are the best. I grew up around a full size sprint in the late 40' & 50's just south of Seattle in then country then. Two neighbors had it and constantly worked it over and drove it on our gravel roads, testing it I guess. They paid no attention to me. I hung out around their garage until they would turn out the lights at night, hundreds of times. I never knew them to race it, but just guessed they did. It was state of the art for its time. I of course took up the Indy car spectator hobby for a while then life came along. That experience did sit the lust for open wheel cars however, and that is why I built my hi-boy Ford. Pardon my intrusion on this thread without posting great Indy car pictures and or stories. It's just that Indy is real auto racing stuff.