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Hot Rods Axle flex question

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 3banjos, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. 3banjos
    Joined: May 24, 2008
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    Out of curiosity, how much flex should one see on an I-Beam axle ( 4" drop ) when jacking.
    I was swapping rims on the coupe, and normally I would use a bottle jack under kingpin, but the kelsey rims i had on have a 4" back space and couldn't get close enough. Used my trolley jack under perch area.
    Removed wheel, and placed bottle under kingpin so I could jack opposite side with trolley.
    When lowering axle down onto bottle jack, noticed a significant amount off vertical movement in the drum. Would that be considered normal.
     
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  2. Mo rust
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    It will surprise you how much a beam axle will flex. That's why you can use a beam axle with split wishbones but it's not a good idea to use a tube axle with split wishbones. The beam axle will flex and the tube axle won't.
     
  3. Mr48chev
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    I always figured that was designed into the I beam axles. Part of why factory I beams of any make tend to hold up as well as they do. When My 48 got hit back in the 70's the axle was bent at more than a 90 degree angle but didn't crack or break.
     
  4. They are pretty wiggly to start with then we drop 'em. A forged I beam will take a real beating, well if it is a good forging it will. I have straightened forged axles that have been severely bent and seen them go a long time after the fact. They are just tough.

    An original non dropped Henry will flex quit a bit and never loose its shape, and once you drop one it adds a little extra bending torque to it, think of it like using a cheater pipe on a breaker bar. They still hold up real well after dropping, but the flex would be more noticeable.
     
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  5. Mo rust
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    I took this picture recently at the Speedway Museum in Lincoln. Ford axles do bend before they break. I have a buddy with a super bell axle that he broke in half when he dropped a tire in the ditch on his roadster so I'm not sure aftermarket axles are always as flexible. axle.JPG
     
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  6. bct
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    if you lay an axle on the ground with split wishbones attached ,pointing straight up, you can twist it an amazing amount by hand.
     
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  7. 3banjos
    Joined: May 24, 2008
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    They're an interesting piece of metal alright. I was just surprised how much it moved between perch and kingpin.
    May have to tie my camera to the frame and hit the roads.
     
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  8. Atwater Mike
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    '32 'heavies' have more 'constitution'. All the rest are surprisingly resilient. Chrome Vanadium. Signed, Henry Ford.
     
  9. BJR
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    I am surprised that no one has twisted one a few times and got the king pin angles correct and used it. I think it would look very cool in a car.
     

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