The Jalopy Journal
Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by kurtis, Jul 18, 2009.
an interesting link !
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1911 E-M-F participating in an endurance run from Detroit to Rutland, VT, the birthplace of Walter Flanders.
1911 EMF #33 driven by Jack Tower in the Tiedeman Cup, Savannah, Georgia
Milwaukee ,Wisconsin 1912
Curious to know if this is the surviving TNT Miller?
Kurtis, with the twin exhaust header pipe it appears to be Ira Vail's 1920 Miller mount carrying a 183 similar to the engine that Bill Castle used in his build. The venue appears to be Beverly Hills. The 1919 TNT car that survives has some different bodywork and a different radiator (among other differences). I have seen a number of pictures of the TNT as it looks today although I cannot find a picture handy. Not sure of the little guys name in the cockpit, although I thought I have run across his name somewhere.
Kurtis here is a picture that is from Amelia Island of the TNT (original picture credit to Concept Carz, I believe). Not sure of the full history of the engine changes and bodywork from the 20s till present. Have asked the question before without success. Similarities but differences as well.
Here's a pic of Bill Castle's recreation of the Baby Chevrolet- wish I had had the chance to meet Bill, as he was one heck of a nice guy to talk with!
Bill was truly a great guy and one of the finest craftsman I have run into. I met Bill before he started on it (when it was in the planning stages) and throughout the build and when it was finished. He insisted I get a ride in the car and his son Terry allowed me to sit in the mechanic's seat and appreciate all of Bill's labor. I remember one time when he was working on the brake mechanisms and I studied them. They were hand made by Bill and I told him that Harry Miller would be really proud of the job he was doing. The molds he made for all of the castings were like artwork. Everything he did was really superb. We now have that car for many to appreciate for years to come.
Not long before he passed Bill asked if I would be in Indy anytime soon and I said I would come and visit him as he wanted to talk about Miller history. I had told him I was writing a piece on early Miller (which I finished for the AACA magazine sometime after he passed) and there was a question that someone had posed that the iron four that Miller had built had ended up in his car originally which he wanted to clear up. I brought down my pictures and what I had on the iron four and the other Miller stuff and I basically showed him what I was writing and we discussed early Miller stuff for quite a long time (to the dismay of my patient wife). He was on oxygen at the time and he would remove the oxygen at times because he wanted to look at stuff and talk Millers without the tube distracting him. As sad as I was on one hand it was a great conversation on the other. A great guy for sure.
I did check Michael's notes but didn't see an actual photo to debunk my suspicions.
Nice story about Bill Castle. Thanks for sharing.
Not long ago, I learned that driver Jack Petticord grew up only a few miles from where I live. That was enough to get me interested in learning more about his life and racing career. Jack raced with I.M.C.A. and A.A.A. from the early 1920s until the late 1930s before he died of a stroke at the age of 39, but he sure packed a lot of living into those 39 short years. If you are interested in seeing what I've learned so far about Jack Petticord, you can find that here:
... which reminds me, Bob... I'm sorry, I was "a bit" busy the last few weeks, and I don't think I even answered your mail - sorry! Promise to get back to you.
1914 Santa Monica Road Race
Beverly Hills Speedway
1931 belgian GP
Not exactly automotive, but you Bug & Duesy fans will like this...
Did I post that photo? I have that same photo.
I like these old photos, could be wooden block flooring common in old machine shops or bricks. Old line shaft shop. Some were driven by a single steam engine.
You may have Dave.I just didn't look for t before I posted.....
found in the Internet:
Alfa ,1933 Grossglockner
Thomas driving the 'TORPILLE' " at Mont Ventoux.
Jimmy Marquis at San Francsico.
Ira Vail ,Santa Monica 1914
Renault,1905 Gordon Bennett.Circuit d'Auvergne
In many shops,the wooden floors where made with the wood stand up and the end grain show.It was 2' or more long.It served at least 2 purposes.#1) it helped absorb the vibrations of the machine.#2) if you dropped a tool it didn't damage the tool. When installing large engines(steam or oil)the foundations employed a layer of cork along with concrete to absorb some of the harmonic vibrations from the engines.
Night tyre stop ,1931 Mille Miglia.
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