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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by kurtis, Jul 18, 2009.

  1. banjeaux bob
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    Another question mark
     

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    Any clues?
     

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    Tazio Nuvolari,1935
     

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    More Nuvolari
     

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    Alfa Romeo P3 and Benito Mussolini.
     

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    1920 Alfa Romeo Giuseppe Campori
     

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    1931 Monaco GP ,Louis Chiron in Bugatti Type 51
     

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    1931 Rudolph Caracciolos in Mercedes Benz
     

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    Roland Pilain P3
     

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    Nuvolari AR Monza and Vittorio Suster in a Caproni CA 100, autodromo Littorio Rome 8 December 1931
     
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    I went to the Peterson on valentine's day, haven't been there in years.......guess what was there.

    I didn't even read what exhibits were going on we just went.
     

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    Targa Florio 1927
    #38 André Dubonnet
    Type 35c 4881?
     
  15. SteveLines
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    I have a question which I hope you guys may be able to help me with please :) ?

    I would like to know when silver or "aluminium paint" first started getting used on racing cars?

    I know silver paint was used for all of the German Mercedes and Auto Union "Silver Arrows" from around 1934 onwards, but I wondered if it had an earlier use, perhaps soon after WW1? If so, it would be great to see some photos :)

    Thanks!
     
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    The photo above is the best copy of W. Gould Brokaw's 1904 Renault we have ever seen showing this car and we have split it into two larger photos from above on The Old Motor, so that you can study it’s details. Take a special note of the frame which was of lug and tube construction.

    More details along with Brokaw's boat racing pursuits can be found on The Old Motor.
     
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    Leader Card Racers: A Dynasty of Speed. We have just finished a review of the book by Gordon Eliot White chronicling of the story of the Wilke family’s involvement in open wheel racing through four generations, from the 1930′s right into the start of the 21st century. Some of the Leader Card drivers included Rodger Ward, Bobby Unser, Johnny Rutherford. Learn more and view many excellent photos on The Old Motor.

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    David, That Marchese INDY car is only a 2 hour drive away from you in Rocky Hill Ct. Owned by a non posting HAMB member. Bob
     
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    I am good friends with him and have seen the car, which is as it last raced and in excellent condition.
     
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    couple of new projects The 2 man car started as Harvey Wards Gilmore Speedway special with a 220 Miller and evolved to Frank Brisko's Elgin Piston Pin special in 1936

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    Really cool stuff Guff!
     
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    Way Cool, Not many two-man cars survived.
     
  23. SteveLines
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    It would be great to see some more pics and to hear more history please :)
     
  24. guffey
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    One is how I got it. One is how it survived in the early 2000's with a flat head. The Gimore Speedway special is it's first Harvey Ward paint

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  25. SteveLines
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    Fantastic! Thanks for the pictures.

    Love the website too - you have some very cool stuff.

    I especially like the 30's single seat Miller. Amazing grille/radiator on that.
     
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    Artist and photographer Stefan Marjoram recently took in an event at Ivan Dutton Ltd, located in Buckinghamshire, England, and had the following to say about it: “The terrific French Day at the Ivan Dutton Bugatti Workshops. Wonderful company, food, music and sights to make the eyes boggle! ”

    Many more of Marjoram's photos from the event can be seen at The Old Motor.


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  27. banjeaux bob
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    Stefan certainly has THE eye... doesn't he?
     
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    I am pretty certain the 2 man version spans the 4 photos I posted earlier, with Harvey Ward being a very important part of the puzzle. He is listed as the owner and or entrant from the Gilmore Speedway special and the Art Rose special entered by Ward in the Indianapolis 500 in 1933 and 1934. It is interesting to note the Gilmore Lion on the tail of the Art Rose car looks like the one in the photo of the Gilmore speedway special photo.

    As far as after Frank Brisko I suspect it was run after the war because it has post war wheels and hydraulic brakes now. I also figure it may have been street driven with the flathead???

    I also suspect at least the chassis may have evolved from a single seat car Harvey Ward ran at Ascot but pretty much speculation at this point
     

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