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History Auto racing 1894-1942

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by kurtis, Jul 18, 2009.

  1. T-Head
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    This is one of two photos of the same Cameron racing car we have posted on TheOldMotor.com. Check them both out and if you have and info on them please be sure to let us know.
     
  2. carl s
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    My guess is early 1932 and 'Uncle' is preparing his Miller Spl. for his Mobil Oil funded Land Speed Run on a circular course at Muroc Dry lake in Sep, 1932.
    Is that a new fangeled Miller 200 4 cylinder being tested in place of the straight 8?
    Some photos of the car at Muroc 1933:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=358249

    I recall somewhere seeing a photo of his wife Marion in this car outside a Hollywood Movie Studio. The caption read something to the effect that 'July, 1932 Marion had just turned 120mph laps in the car at Muroc.'

    fwiw Here's a photo of the car at Brockton Fair (MA) Oct 1928 - Leslie Jones Collection Boston PL
    http://s1011.photobucket.com/albums...tion=view&current=7263424834_271cdeb7e3_b.jpg
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    Anyone know the history of this car?
     
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  3. gilmore
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    The car below was posted on another forum and the person who posted it says it was claimed to be a "documented real racer". Photo was taken at Sears Point so I assume it might reside on the west coast. Has anyone seen this car or know anything about it?

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  4. saacha
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    Soft spot for these Bob tail Ts, here go some more, all my admiration for those intrepid drivers.
     

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  5. The37Kid
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    ^^^^^^^^^^ Thanks ssaaha! I enjoy seeing the Bob Tailed race cars as well. Has anyone come up with the reason they ran without tail sections? Bob
     
  6. Bluto
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    Yes Thank you

    Bob I think it was a style.

    And construction ease. The hood and cowl are simple curves
     
  7. If I remember correctly, Gerber also talked about how the bobtails rounded the turns better/had more control (the cars with tails tended to slide more).

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  8. Bigsmoothy
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    Very cool thanks for posting!!
     
  9. saacha
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    the pictures of the bob tails posted actually belong to my T friend Pablo Benavente who put togheter this bob tail T.
     

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  10. That's nicely done- I really like what he did with the Whippet shell, too!
     
  11. 1915 peacoat and period hair-doo.
     

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  12. T-Head
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    We have had this photo on The Old Motor for quite some time and would like to ID the racing car in the background. The location is what was referred to as the Cliff House Beach, in San Francisco. Below is a Lozier speedster which may have been photographed on the same day.

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  13. The shot is at SF, most likely '15 when the San Francisco Grand Prize was run during the Pan Pacific Exposition. I think #7 was (is) the indy National, though the car in the race driven by Lou Gandy was called an "Edwards".

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1915_American_Grand_Prize

     
  14. Frank is a pretty snazzy guy with a bow tie and Pope.
     

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  15. banjeaux bob
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    Here is a group of bob tailed Ts and the odd Hudson from Argentina..
     

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  16. 64 DODGE 440
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    That Hudson is really nice, but I'm thinking that there are more "As" than "Ts" in that group.
     
  17. banjeaux bob
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    Will you accept bob tailed Fords?
     
  18. Kume
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    Charles Pauleys Chevrolet bobtail following Gerber's recipe- no unnecessary sheet metal south of the scuttle.
     

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  19. 64 DODGE 440
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    Sure...Send me a couple, I'll find a place to park them around here. :D
     
  20. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Right. What's a scuttle?

    Nice grille shell.
    Q: Whippett?
    A: No, I just scold it severely.
     
  21. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Limey speak for cowl, as in bonnet, boot, wings and windscreen. :D
     
  22. scuttle...bonnet...bob tail...vegemite...wire wheels...
     

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  23. nonscuttlebobtailmarmiteeater (pinched from the Vanderbuilt cup site)
     

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  24. Bluto
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    Don't forget ''NEARSIDE'' Whatever that is
     
  25. banjeaux bob
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    Nearside is opposite of offside.
     
  26. The37Kid
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    You mount from the left, since most saber scabbards are on the left.:) Bob
     
  27. just picked up a copy of "more sketches by Casque" (of the autocar), if you can ever steal a copy it is wonderful fun!!
     
  28. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Oh, like mounting a horse. I get that. That is, unless your inline engine's exhaust pipes exit from the left side of the vehicle.
     
  29. kurtis
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    You just made me hungry.:D

    On a more serious note, I recall you have a soft spot for anything that was manufactured by Mr. Pope. I thought you may want to see the latest offering at The Old Motor.

    http://theoldmotor.com/?p=60647
     
  30. great set of images!!
     

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