History Auto racing 1894-1942

Kurtis, Twin6 and myself on our way out last weekend to search for more early RACING photos. The Rapid truck belongs to three of our friends who are a little more normal than we are.

 

The Alco Racing team and a calf that they befriended. Harry Grant leaning against the tent post and Frank Lee his mechanic in the black sweater.

 

Now hang on a second. That clearly looks like earlyguy, not me.

While you three were monkeying around i was too busy researching what little information there is on Lozier Motor Company.

I haven't found much in regard's to the marine engine, just the odd one lung, 2 and 4 cycle that can be found on www.oldmarineengine.com . To tell you the truth i haven't found the time to really learn about the company except for the bicycle buisness.
Here's a good short read if anyone is interested. It give's you some idea about the player's during Lozier's transition to engine manufacturing.
www.lesliefield.com/other-history/lozier-story.htm

I even took my Cleveland for a ride.

BTW, thanks for the Chadwick blower and Wiedley engine info.

 

T57S replica on genuine T57 frame (chassis 57555), now in Nethercutt Collection.

 

QUOTE; psalt......Speaking of bugs. Why did Dusenberg use one intake valve and two exhausts, after working with the bugs two intakes and one exhaust ?



After years of working on a lot of different early engines and studying their cams and valves I think I know what they were thinking. The thought back then, at least here in this country is they had to get rid of the expanding gas so they thought they needed to do things like this. Later on it they figured out what they needed was the exact opposite.

The exhaust gases are actually under pressure and can get out fairly easily. The norm from the late 20's on is bigger intakes and a smaller exhaust.

 

Keith,

Cool photo. Reminds me of Lockhart's Stutz Blackhawk.

Thanks for the Deustch-Bonnet links.
I have read what ever i could find about the company, and there is lot's to be found but not all the info is correct. As Harry mentioned previously, Panhard and Citroen engines were used but some well meaning blogger's have not noted when these power plants were used and showing a DB2 but captioning it as a DB1 really gets frustrating. Finding the correct info took some time but the French sites seem to have everything in order, it's the translation part where it gets interesting.

 

I suspect you are right. I am always amazed by the drain pipe diameter exhaust on those 1.5 liter engines. Technically the answer is better surface area to mass ratio for cooling the hottest part of the engine, but I don't know if Dusenberg considered this. In any event, he was on to the hemi head a few years later. It is curious to me that the Bugatti 16 in the Dusenberg's Elizabeth, NJ plant had the reversed layout. The valve layout doesn't seem to have been one of the many big issues with that motor. Bugatti failure to copy as quickly as the crowd had his engines down on power for many years until he finally sobered up an copied some guy in LA.

 

Fred first used 2-valves per cyl. then went to these 4-valves like these in the walking beam fours. Thought you might enjoy these photos.

 

Yes, I do.

Are those assemblies threaded into the head ? What makes the seal on the bottom ?

 

These are the intakes.....look close, you can see the new copper rings I machined and then annealed. The outer threaded slotted discs screw into the block and tighten the seats against the copper rings and the block.

The exhaust seats are in the block and conventional. The exhaust valves go in first and then these intakes go in after.

 

Come to the Fall Vintage Festival this year and see it.

 

Psalt..... To give you an idea of what I was talking about earlier look at this photo.

These are cams from a 1912 T-Head Mercer Raceabout engine I am starting to put together today. The bottom cam is the exhaust and you can see how much wider the top of the lobe is compared to the intake cam at the top. The exhausts have much more lift and duration than the intakes which was the thinking and practice back then.

 

The car next to the Blitzen Benz at Ormond is not a Christie. Look through the book 'Racing on the Rim' and you could probably answer which car it is. The book is a great history of all the Ormond Beach races.
I've been too busy lately and have trouble keeping up with all these great posts !

 

I see somebody's been to the Bugatti Trust!

According to Barrie Price's book on the T57 this is c/n 57229, which was originally bodied by Galibier and first delivered in 1934. As psalt says it owes a lot to the Paris Salon car, but for me it's probably the ugliest T57 ever built - with the possible exception of the Saoutchik/Van Vooren car built for the Shah of Persia.

 

"Come to the Fall Vintage Festival this year and see it"

Where and when is this Vintage fall fest?

 

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September 3-6, 2010 – Labor Day weekend

In 2009, the Festival offered spectators the unforgettable sights and sounds of the 1939 W 154 Mercedes-Benz Silver Arrow from the Collier Collection; it appeared on a race track for the first time since 1939. Between its on-track sessions, the gaggle of fans surrounding the Silver Arrow’s compound was three-deep all weekend. Photo below.

Here is a link to the site.....

http://www.limerock.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=101&Itemid=99

I am bringing both the Helck Mercer, and The Duesenberg for a very good friend and maybe another good Raceabout all for the Sunday show. May run the Mercer and Duesey at lunch time on the track during racing days.....

 

Thanks T!

 

Not sure if this has been mentioned before but here's a great site for old movie clips. This one features some sort of early backwards race...

http://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675037703_car-race_people-cheering_race-track_people-on-track

 

An interesting advertisement by Wright-Martin showing Hisso engine assembly at their plant in New Brunswick N.J. March, 19, 1919.

 

Thanks.. There are lots of wonderful early films to veiw on that site.

Highly recommended.

 

Have we had this view of the big Fiat on here before???

 

Mercedes-Benz Racedriver Otto Merz ??

 

Riding shotgun in the Duesenberg was fun years ago, can I get to compare it to a ride in the MERCER? Lime Rock is always a great Vintage event.

 

I am in the process of posting the entire May 1929 Fronty Catalog over at the T Ford Racing thread on the Ford Barn. In case you are interested the link is right below.

http://www.fordbarn.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3723&page=11

 

Yes it is.
He was also in the motorcade in Sarajevo when Archduke Franz Ferdinand was assasinated.

 

Was the horn photoshopped?

 

I don't think so.....Might have been for driving to the track....