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Australia,side steer questions

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Aussie osborne, Jan 23, 2010.

  1. Aussie osborne
    Joined: Aug 23, 2009
    Posts: 50

    Aussie osborne
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    Hi peoples,

    I am building up my 29 roadster project here in Adelaide. I want to side steer it. But i have no real idea of what steering box's can be used. I have heard of HR and HT boxes but i understand they need some alterations. I have a 1972 dodge truck box that i think would work ok but i have to drastically shorten the column tube and the steering shaft. I want to come out the side of the cowl if i can. Most box's i see in wrecking yards if snug up against the inside of the cowl so the arm is on the outside puts the column way to far over to the right...

    Any help appreciated as this is my first rod and i am learning as i go!

    Aussie
     
  2. I believe it can be done with an HT box , you need to reverse it tho , if my fuzzy ol brain is correct.
     
  3. RoddyB34
    Joined: Oct 13, 2009
    Posts: 542

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    XW-XY falcon mounted to the back of 4 bar bracket works fine in my 34 ,stainless pitman arms are available ,
     
  4. Not that much to shorten column, if its ¾ Borgeson - www.borgeson.com - has unis and DD sleeves.<o></o>
    If the shaft is 2/3 cut it and make two flats to fit a uni, a sealed bearing in the tube and allow some upper steering shaft to stick out past the bearing, two more flats to fit the DD uni. <o></o>
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    If you what to reverse a steering box- http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=282490&page=2



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  5. hotcargo
    Joined: Nov 9, 2005
    Posts: 307

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    Hey Aussie ,

    as Roddy says , the XW-XY Falcon sits in the right spot , these use a rag coupling or if you want a solid shaft old time look , use the XR-XT steering box

    The holden box is a bit long , not a good fit compared to the ford box's

    cheers
     
  6. Any sprint car gear can be flipped over and used as right-side cowl steering.
     

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  7. larry woods
    Joined: Jan 20, 2010
    Posts: 566

    larry woods
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    from venice fl

    check www.gasalleystreetrods.com. great article on using corvair box and their kit for cowl steer. august 2009 of Street Rodder mag has a nice article on it. good luck
     
  8. fiftyv8
    Joined: Mar 11, 2007
    Posts: 5,202

    fiftyv8
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    from CO & WA

    I am with JohnnyFast on this one, you can get these or similar items from Speedway Motors.
    Just do a search on cowl steering!
     
  9. 41fastback
    Joined: Sep 25, 2005
    Posts: 358

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    Seems to me, any box that has to be reversed for left hand drive would work as-is for right hand drive. Check this link and scroll down to my '68 Ford truck box. It has the length you may be able to use. Just flip the box over.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174879
     
  10. Mark H
    Joined: May 18, 2009
    Posts: 1,461

    Mark H
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    from Scotland

    Hi Aussie.
    Not used one myself but,Land Rover series 2 and 3 seem popular over here for side steer applications.I would think you could pick one up pretty easy over there.
    Mark
     
  11. G,day aussie, my mate used a bedford van steering box , works fine.
     
  12. Striper's setup works well, and Dean up at John's Rod and Custom did the same for his 32.
     
  13. Fenders
    Joined: Sep 8, 2007
    Posts: 3,922

    Fenders
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    Well this may be OT but I was looking at an older Ford tractor today and was surprised to see (I hadn't examined one before) that it had two pitmans, one on each side of the box -- each wheel has a drag link (no tie rod needed).

    The pitmans drop down on each side. So when you turn the steering to the right the right pitman moves forward, pushing that wheel to the right, and the left pitman moves backward, pulling THAT wheel to the right !!

    Made me wonder it there is a use for the old Ford tractor steering box in a hot rod..... use left side pitman for USA, right side for English (or Aussie) if you use a tie rod. Maybe work it into a cowl steer arrangement....

    ... The way the bones attached to the frame is another story....
     

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