Technical **August is for a Bang of a Good Time**

Link to previous month: July 2022
Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
September 18 Auburn, CA NorCal F.A.S.T. Fall Hill Climb
Stay safe.

For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
email: [email protected]
phone: 951-695-7313.

A few links to speed equipment companies there maybe more
https://specialtymotorcams.com/index.php#header
http://www.millerhi-speedheads.com/index.html
http://www.modelatrader.com/brumfield/brumfield.html
https://www.hotforhotfours.com/advertisers.htm
https://www.secretsofspeed.com/speed-parts

Bert's, Synder's, Mikes affordable also list some speed performance parts.

Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

Banger basics. another info link list:
http://www.fordgarage.com/

http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
and this link shows the missing image from the above post
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055

The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/

Model B rod bearing insert numbers
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484

Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

Adjusting dual Strombergs:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

Helpful Model A tools and tips:
http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

Elrod's stuck head tech:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

Model A generator to alternator conversion:
http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php

Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05

Chevy Banger Stuff
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10

T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226

New Banger Block in the Works
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/

Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm

 

Hoping that @Jiminy is OK, but thought that we needed an August thread and maybe updates from the banger bunch at Bonneville
I haven't figured out links yet...
Edit: did change the link to last months meet

 

Finally got the info and parts from Randy Gross to adjust the F-100 steering on the CCPU. Seems the unit I bought 15 years ago from Mel had a different adjustment system. Kudos to Randy.

 

Back again, can’t keep away.

 

Checking in

 

been trying to drive them and on the last leg of about a 250 mile run, hit a railroad crossing. I was running about 35 mph. Up in the air and landed on two wheels...busted the right rear dog bone for the shock and put the fan into the radiator. I'm rethinking railroad crossing approaches
Happy motoring

 

Hope Jimmie is OK.

 

Yes, me too...he was on the board on Monday morning but "June sucked" was his last post.
I know sometimes life gets in the way...his month off this month and then we will review the situation
@Binger hasn't been around but I talked to him and he got a new position at work that is keeping him hopping along with starting a Model RR layout

 

just same ol me

 

Thanks for Aug thread
Heading to Bville in a couple days
Going with Madole coop, 4E4 tank and my VGL tank
Will update as can
J

 

Checking in with a new addition to the roadster. 1949 Halibrand, this is the odd one that uses Model A bells but has 1-3/8 change gears. And before anyone comments, yes I stayed with the mechanical brakes.

 

Just a note from an ol' hot rodder to say thanks for you folks who keep this thread up and running. Both the maintainers and those who post.... I don't say too much but feel right at home here each day.

 

Hope all is well with Jimmy.

Good luck John and the entire 4E4 group.


Sometimes you have to do stuff just to get home.

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Checking in, hope all is well with everyone

 

Bad Ass....

From another Mechanical brake bandit...

 

Thanks @winduptoy for posting the meet up...

Checking in, just been driving mine when the temps are lower than 100... Hit the ole logging roads for a new neighborhood around here,....

Hope Jimmy is good...

Good luck and safe travels to those hitting the salt...

 

Checking in - no news from me.

 

Present - updates coming this month.

Best of luck to our friends headed to the salt! @johnneilson Et al!

 

*** john , good luck on your trip . now you can use what you worked on all year !!!!!!!
let them know you were there !

 

Looks like my shopping has arrived.

 

may the 'salt gods' treat all you Bonneville bound bangers, nice...
@patina steve is going for a record...again

 

Anyone out there have a Fronty water manifold they can pull some dimensions from...? I am looking at making something similar for my Akron-Hed conversion. I won’t be using the Fronty side drive, but instead will be routing water from the stock water pipe in an attempt to cool the hot spots I experience with the current Sherman flat head.
I would like to make the water manifold reasonably correct, and so am asking for tube diameters, flange dimensions, and outlet angle...

Thanks in advance!

 

Berts called and told me all 3 blocks I brought up are scrap...bummer Im 0 for 4
my quest continues! tally-ho

 

DIDTO

 

My friend just got his the other.Looks really nice.

 

Santa Burtz has been making his rounds…

 

Got my Burtz engine together and about 500 miles on it
Deburr everything and until you do all the edges are real sharp. Do that first unless you like to bleed
Look everything over real critically, I found flashing and burrs that needed removed, everywhere
Measure and verify everything dimensionally, mine was OK but I've heard stories of ones that were not
My casting exterior was nasty rough and lots of blemishes so I ground/sanded it smooth
You can't clean it enough and clean it one more time wash, brush and blow all passages. I ran a drill driven 3/8 cable with the end frayed all thru the water passages...the amount of casting sand was remarkable
I used Locktite 620 on the oil passage plugs which are not tapered and require sealant so they do not leak
Locktite 5699 on the main cap bolts and main cap to block mating surfaces, nothing else for sealant but these two products...as the recommended products failed..
These two products are all I've used in the past with great results
DO NOT remove the tension spring for the rear main as suggested in the build guide
Spend a little more and buy the Detroit Diesel application seal...it is silicone and usually can be found on ebay for less money, that's where I found bearing shells too..
Buy extra shells as I had problems with the tab slots on a few
Read the assembly instructions multiple times but rely on your past engine assembly experience as well
I am reasonably happy with mine at this point but time will tell
I know @Crazydaddyo built his but don't know if he had similar experiences...
Good luck

 

@winduptoy - this information is much appreciated!

 

Are you going to repro these, Kevin?

 

My plan is continually evolving... but right now it’s looking like a small run of about 5 water manifolds for myself and a couple others who have expressed interest. These will be 3D printed sand molds, and so will have very little economy of scale. If you are interested, please send me an email and I will add your name to the list. I will have the ability to make more in the future, but have no intentions of maintaining inventory