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Technical ***August 2018 Banger Meet - Banger Driving Weather***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Jul 31, 2018.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 319

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    Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)

    September 9th, El Mirage

    September 14-16, Hot Rod Hill Climb
    Central City, Colorado


    September 28-30 ECTR-LSR THE ARKANSAS 1-MILE CHALLENGE
    The event is held at the Arkansas Aeroplex (The Blytheville-Gosnell Regional Airport) at 4701 Memorial Drive in Blytheville, Arkansas.

    October 2nd -5th, SCTA/BNI Bonneville Race World Finals

    October 21st, El Mirage

    November 10th - 11th, El Mirage


    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:


    Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $31.00 for color, $24.00 for B/W (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
    Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
    email: jimb4e4@gmail.com
    phone: 951-695-7313.


    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498


    Banger basics. another info link list:
    http://www.fordgarage.com/


    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055


    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/


    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484


    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html


    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461


    Helpful Model A tools and tips:
    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html


    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109


    Elrod's stuck head tech:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487


    Model A generator to alternator conversion:
    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html


    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173


    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05


    Chevy Banger Stuff
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465


    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10


    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226


    New Banger Block in the Works
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/
     
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  2. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
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    from wyoming

    Checking in for the month! I will keep everyone posted with details about my new engine install.
     
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  3. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
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    Checking in.....working on the Cragar OHV/T-5 install....slowly. It is cooling season and it is hot.
     
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  4. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
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    yep, checking in
    loading trailer..........
     
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  5. noboD
    Joined: Jan 29, 2004
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    Binger, we need pictures.
     
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  6. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
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    from Colorado

    Just dropped off the Zipper engine to be refreshed along with two cores at Bert’s. Deadline is May first next year so I can get it in and be ready for the Speedster Reunion at Speedway. Will be driving the rare ‘29 Supercab a lot.
     
  7. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
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    No word except "it is getting closer" Patience is all I've got.

    .
     
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  8. I'm here. Still gathering the parts to do my juice brake conversion.
     
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  9. barrnone50
    Joined: Oct 24, 2010
    Posts: 484

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    from texas

    Yes John please post on your progress!! Thanks George
     
  10. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
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    Im here from the sth seas
     
  11. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
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    Good luck. May the Gods of Speed favor you.

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  12. johnneilson
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    Thanks Dan, that place is humbling.
     
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  13. fourd
    Joined: Jan 17, 2013
    Posts: 64

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    from Colorado

    Checking in. I found some inspirational pictures from GNRS to share. I saw four 4 Ports in one day. Art's 32's are fantastic!
    IMG_2737.jpg IMG_2738.jpg IMG_2819.jpg IMG_2821.jpg
     
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  14. surf10
    Joined: Jul 16, 2013
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    Hi guys checking in from New Zealand, here is a pic of my junk, manage to get it running from a pile of parts in time for my wedding last March. Now we’re getting ready for our honey moon to speedweek!

    It’s a cut down phaeton plan is to add the sheet metal for the rear tub now and remove the tray to make the car a bit more social.

    Question for you more experienced banger owners. Fitting new head gaskets,mine didn’t seem to seal properly what’s everyone’s preferred method.

    I replaced the gasket with a composite type torqued to 45ft/lb put it through a heat cycle then torqued to 50ft/lb. had the car sitting for a month then check oil and noticed water in it

    Should be a simple process I know, but it’s tripped me up.

    Cheers Craig


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  15. I finally finished the work on the race car. After Sonoma's race in June the car had no brakes and the engine was rough, coughing and back firing. This last month (mostly waiting for parts) my buddy Max rewired the whole chassis; while I made modifications to the front suspension (AGAIN!), overhauled the brakes and worked on the engine. All the basic engine needed was an oil change. The ignition and the carburetors got most of the attention. We'll be ready to go at Monterey the end of the month!
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  16. winduptoy
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    Stock head? Block, A or B?
     
  17. Binger
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    I will post some along the way. not much to see yet. Just buttoning up the engine and getting it painted. the swap starts tomorrow by pulling the old one out.
     
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  18. surf10
    Joined: Jul 16, 2013
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    Hi sorry, yes stock model A engine.

    First aim is to get everything working in stock form then modify from there so I have a bench mark.

    Cheers


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  19. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 164

    railcarmover

    Helped a friend of mine with his Miller Serr head with Serr header,he had an issue with the petronix (timing scatter,first time I saw that,they usually just fail) and squaring away the fuel lines with a solenoid and remounting the fuel pump.We fired it open header and it woke the dead.Its in a stock 29 fordor with etched wind wings,AC and a luggage rack,so he decided to switch out to a cast iron header and an Aries exhaust( his wife was behind the change as well)..So I asked what he was going to do with the header and he said "You want it?" in my zeal I couldn't take it quick enough the header is dead sexy and I'm building a banger, so loud is fine with me. I go to hang it last night along with my 94...and low and behold the sucker don' t fit a stock model A. Now I have to change my avatar. On the bright side the 94 runs nice.. 20180801_193627.jpg 20180801_174111.jpg
     
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  20. winduptoy
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    Re torque to 55 ft-lb, following tightening sequence band see what happens. You likely will have to re-torque several times. On side note....might not be head gasket

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  21. Shutter Speed
    Joined: Feb 2, 2017
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    IMG_2186.JPG IMG_2187.JPG Big Brother's Banger, 1964. It "bit" me at 12years of age (15 in photo).

    But I'm here today to give thanks...Crazydaddyo, 97, V4F, Binger, Charlie...you successfully penetrated my thick scull and solved my problem. Obviously I'm in the right Joint! You led me to turn my HOT (144*) upside- down coil, right-side up...118* now, which ain't so hot which is cool!

    Will be pestering you from time to time. Thx in advance!
    Art
     
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  22. Kiwi 4d
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    Any pics of the cragar conversion ?
    Likewise a stock A header wont fit an OHV as they are too short.Nothing a little welding wont fix though.
     
  23. denis4x4
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    This is an original 1935 CRAGAR head. The Headers came from Bert’s in Denver
     
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  24. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
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    Also here in NZ the steering box is on the other side and in the way headers are the best solution
     
  25. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
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    My Model A exploded! About ready to put the new engine in!


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  26. Dustyp489
    Joined: Feb 1, 2008
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    Just checking in hope everybody has a good August we've had a lot of rain here for the month of July and looking forward to some days withe no rain.

    Went to the show in Hanover Pennsylvania at Maaco did not see any bangers there
    Skip
     
  27. railcarmover
    Joined: Apr 30, 2017
    Posts: 164

    railcarmover

    Nah,gonna keep the brothers stuff on the down low,he's a standup guy Ill let him choose to post up.Full pressure counter balanced B engine,all the goodies,sitting in a 29 fordor,bone stock...kinda...A/C, stereo full insulation,a touring guys touring car..As for the header is too pretty to cut up,I think Ill sell it cheap and use the dough to get a reds for my A...cest la vie..you know,I looked at that OHV engine for three days working on it and didnt realize it was taller..
     
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  28. fine29
    Joined: Sep 13, 2008
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    from Des Moines

    Scored a 32 front axle today as well as the column. Do any of you know, would the 32 box be much of an upgrade over the A box? Mine has a lot of up and down movement on the pitman arm shaft.

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  29. Anyone ever had this happen to them?
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    Keep ‘em kruzin!

    Dannerr
     
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  30. JT1930
    Joined: Jul 1, 2018
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    It’s August already.

    Any go fast goodies for sale. Head, Header or intake ????
     

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