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at what point do you call it in?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by dirtball666, Apr 19, 2011.

  1. dirtball666
    Joined: Apr 10, 2011
    Posts: 14


    i'm aware of the knowledge on floor boards on this forum and i have scoured what i have, so don't jump me for it.
    i started working on my 57 buicks floor board today. i knew they were soft under the carpet, but i didn't know how soft... ripped out the seats and the crapet only to find the infamous midwest powdered floor board. for those of you out west, thats when you vacuum up 40% of your floor board with a shop vac. so, my gas pedal plate has rusted itself off, the back driver side has been cut out into a 2ftx2ft hole, the front by the toe board is soft and needs replaced, the sides by the door rails where the carpet tucks under is a holy mess. most or less this cars been bless by the Vatican, if you catch my drift. so, i could patch all this together and have it looking like a scare crow's face, or just by new boards. the trans tunnel is very nice. just everything to the sides of it. i have limited tools welder' grinder etc. and limited money, and i'm not into the whole resto mod thing so i'm just kind of going with what i know. but when would you guys says enough is too much and call in and order a new board? thank you, i'm sorry if this happens to be a redundant thread, i looked i swear it.
  2. silentpoet
    Joined: Sep 27, 2009
    Posts: 207

    from NWA

    Sounds like you are there. Maybe as you gain skills you will be more comfortable with those type of repairs. As somebody once said a man has got to know his limitations. Mine don't extend all that far in a bunch of areas. I picked my current project car because I knew it would extend my skills but not so far that I get overwhelmed.

    But if you have a welder and work within your limits you can probably fix this. As long as it is safe when you are done with it the floor doesn't have to look perfect.
  3. Hard to say without pictures, but I think you'll save yourself a lot of time and grief if you put new floors in.
    Do it once, do it right. You won't regret it.
  4. rld14
    Joined: Mar 30, 2011
    Posts: 1,609


    It's not a unibody car so I wouldn't sweat it all that much. I'll put it this way, if you can make strong butt welds that penetrate properly, and you can shape patch panels into shape with ribs in them, then do it. Properly made patch panels can be just as strong as a repop floor pan and do the job just as well. If ya can't, then get repop floor pans or farm the job out to a pro.

  5. 302GMC
    Joined: Dec 15, 2005
    Posts: 7,146

    from Idaho

    What series & what body style ? Some are worth it, some aren't ...
  6. RJP
    Joined: Oct 5, 2005
    Posts: 2,119

    from PNW

    if you take your time, use common sense, and in places where you're not sure use redundancy, you should be alright. use poster board and card board for templates. floors don't have to be perfect unless you plan on showing your car with mirrors underneath. there is a fine line between restoring and over-restoring.
  7. dirtball666
    Joined: Apr 10, 2011
    Posts: 14


    yeah i agree. i know i can do the butt welds, i was 3 years into my journey mens card for sheet metal when i was laid off. i do lack a bead roller, but buddy owns a shop and he has one. i'm sure i could get him to give me a friends discount. it's a special, series 40, 4 door 302gmc. it's pretty rotten but not a 100% junk. the rest of the car is decent. i suppose just patching it in would be fine. i was just wondering what anyone else thought. when it stops raining i'll take some pictures of it. i cut out a 2x2ft chunk in the back, and i'm not in the business of making show cars. but i do want it safe, if i'm gonna drive my girl in it. i dont want her falling through the floor...though sometimes it sounds nice. ha
  8. Da Tinman
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
    Posts: 4,227

    Da Tinman

  9. I read "floor boards" and thought you must have a wooden floor in your car.
    Then the "powdered floor board" confused me more.
    Lots of older cars had wooden floors, but not a '57 Buick surely.. lol
  10. AAFD
    Joined: Apr 13, 2010
    Posts: 585

    from US of A

  11. old soul
    Joined: Jan 15, 2011
    Posts: 1,093

    old soul
    from oswego NY

    Practice on this one. Maybe you will be chopping something some day
  12. fat141
    Joined: Jul 30, 2006
    Posts: 1,575


    When she hollers out loud
  13. if the panel is too complicated or it's not cost effective to make them i buy new ones, but i have a lot of equipment to do it, make up your floor boards and take them to your friend to put the beads in. seam sealer, undercoat, and carpet will make it look perfect.
  14. dirtball666
    Joined: Apr 10, 2011
    Posts: 14


    heres the pics i promised. though after looking at Da Tinman's thread on home made floor boards i kind of feel like a bitch...soo haha i'll take care of this. the road stock for making beads and shit is just smart..which makes me feel just dumb! haha but yeah, thank you for all the help, and telling at. i appreciate the fire lit under my ass and i'll make something work.

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  15. Woob
    Joined: May 11, 2004
    Posts: 353

    from Falcon, CO

    Since you're already the type of individual who's inclined to own a welder and a grinder, I don't see the need to shell-out any of the limited money on ready-made pieces... but that's just the impression I get.

    It sounds like you're committed to taking out the bad and putting in some good. How much harder do you think it's going to make the process if you add measuring & cutting from some sheet into the mix?
  16. Da Tinman
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
    Posts: 4,227

    Da Tinman

    cool Man! thats why I stuck it up here. Good luck and if you got any questions feel free to ask.
  17. dabirdguy
    Joined: Jun 23, 2005
    Posts: 2,404

    Member Emeritus

    This one was easy to decide:
  18. 63FalconFutura
    Joined: Feb 18, 2010
    Posts: 308

    from Socal

    Front Toeboards $45.00
    Front Floor Pans $65.00
    Sides of Front Seat $35.00
    Rear Floor Pans $65.00
    Inner Rockers Panels $45.00
    Outer Rocker Panels (2 door) $55.00

    depends on how much you value your time at.
  19. garagerods
    Joined: Dec 15, 2006
    Posts: 451

    from Omaha

    It's metal.

    Beat it, cut it, weld it, etc...

    Make it structurally sound.

    Don't worry about pretty....the guy you run over may care but no one else will!
  20. Da Tinman
    Joined: Dec 29, 2005
    Posts: 4,227

    Da Tinman

    If we put a $ value on every hour we spent on these things we wouldnt do it.

    Make the pieces, learn something on a part that virtually nobody is going to see. There will come a time when you wont be able to buy what you need and everyone will see it. Think of this as practice for that day.

    Take your time, relax, dont hold your breath for too long, stretch out every once in a while, and have fun.
  21. dirtball666
    Joined: Apr 10, 2011
    Posts: 14


    thanks a lot guys, i'm gonna do some shopping tomarrow after work and start making this work for me. i appreciate the motivation, seeing as i'm limited on any help from my friends.

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