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Technical ***April 2021 Banger Meet Thread - Fooling with Bangers***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Mar 31, 2021.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 379

    Jiminy
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    Link to previous month: https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...thread-equinox-sacrifice-for-bangers.1222658/

    Old Dawg informs us there is an effort to resurrect a F.A.S.T. newsletter but it would require 400 subscribers (minimum number to attract vendors). Subscription price is unknown at this point (2021/4/1) but if you are interested send an email to woody29@jps.net.

    Coming Events: (PM Jiminy with additions/corrections)
    El Mirage May 1-2, 2021
    British Extravaganza Buttonwillow Raceway Park May 15-16, 2021
    Santa Margarita Time Trials are scheduled for 26 June 2021! No details yet. Save the date and keep your fingers crossed!

    International Speedsters Trials & Reunion June 23rd-26th 2021 Lincoln, NE
    RPM "You Asked For It" Drags June 27 Barona Dragstrip in San Diego.
    Monterey Car Week August 7th - 14th, 2021
    Bonneville Speedweek August 7th - 13th, 2021

    Stay safe.


    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Jim Brierley's book 4-bangers! And me! is a must read book for all banger enthusiasts. US customers send $34.00 all color except for the oldest pictures (includes S/H in the U.S.A.), PayPal welcome, to:
    Jim Brierley, 39480 Colleen Way, Temecula, CA 92592.
    email: jimb4e4@gmail.com
    phone: 951-695-7313.


    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498


    Banger basics. another info link list:
    http://www.fordgarage.com/


    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055


    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/


    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484


    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html


    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461


    Helpful Model A tools and tips:
    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html


    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109


    Elrod's stuck head tech:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487


    Model A generator to alternator conversion:
    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html


    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:
    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173


    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"
    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05


    Chevy Banger Stuff
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465


    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10


    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226


    New Banger Block in the Works
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/


    Model A & B Style Cast Iron Cylinder Head Compression Ratios.
    http://www.fordgarage.com/pages/headcompressionratio.htm
     
    Last edited: Apr 20, 2021
  2. 97
    Joined: May 18, 2005
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    97
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    APTIL? Fat fingers?:D:D:D
     
  3. Midnight Rider
    Joined: May 13, 2010
    Posts: 27

    Midnight Rider
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    from Australia

    Aptil Foole
     
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  4. Is that like, "I was aptil 3am this morning"???
     

  5. Checking in
     
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  6. noboD
    Joined: Jan 29, 2004
    Posts: 7,543

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    Time goes fast, even when you're not having fun.
     
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  7. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
    Posts: 2,343

    winduptoy
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    Happy April,
    New oil pressure gauge in the '29 Roadster. Cold oil pressure at idle. IMG_20210327_100154363_HDR.jpeg

    Sent from my XT1585 using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
     
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  8. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
    Posts: 3,685

    denis4x4
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    from Colorado

    Getting ready to post an ad with enough parts and pieces to build a speedster
     
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  9. Binger
    Joined: Apr 28, 2008
    Posts: 1,719

    Binger
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    from wyoming

    Checking in for the month! Not much going on in Cheyoming. I did have the coupe out the other day for a quick spin. It is amazing how a little spin around in an old car can help your attitude.
     
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  10. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 379

    Jiminy
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    Sigh - fat fingers and tired eyes.
     
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  11. burl
    Joined: Nov 28, 2007
    Posts: 725

    burl
    Member
    from Minnesota

    Checking in for the month. Got the top end back together and fired up. Needs a little tuning. banger.jpg
     
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  12. poshdbs
    Joined: Feb 28, 2013
    Posts: 71

    poshdbs
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    Getting nowhere fast! Maybe something will happen this month.
     
  13. Jet96
    Joined: Dec 24, 2012
    Posts: 1,254

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    from WY

    Checked in for my monthly flight. Put a Stipe cam in a 'B' distributor I got a while back. New bushings and polished up the weights etc., the roadster approves....
     
  14. Dustyp489
    Joined: Feb 1, 2008
    Posts: 134

    Dustyp489
    Member

    Checking in, reworked fuel supply. Hope to test this weekend.
     
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  15. winduptoy
    Joined: Feb 19, 2013
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    Which Stipe cam grind? Inquiring minds need to know....
     
  16. V4F
    Joined: Aug 8, 2008
    Posts: 4,162

    V4F
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    from middle ca.

    not much goin on here ...........
     
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  17. Phil Damon
    Joined: May 8, 2020
    Posts: 31

    Phil Damon
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    from San Diego

    Checking in. Need to get back to finishing my B motor this month.
     
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  18. Tribalmonkey
    Joined: Feb 17, 2019
    Posts: 491

    Tribalmonkey
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    Checking in. Driving my coupe as much as I can. Ready for the warmer days of spring. Trying to decide which route to take on my drive train upgrade. Getting bored with only cruising at 40 mph.
    IMG_5769.JPG
    Getting ready to sell off my extra parts.
    IMG_5775.JPG


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  19. burl
    Joined: Nov 28, 2007
    Posts: 725

    burl
    Member
    from Minnesota

    Four speed trans or mitchell od would help get past 40mph the stock 3 spd will be your limitation
     
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  20. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
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    Along with rearend gear ratio.
    Personally I like the T5 conversion and if you really want to do it, add a quickchange rearend.
    The mods done to motor so far should support you for quite awhile.

    John
     
  21. Dustyp489
    Joined: Feb 1, 2008
    Posts: 134

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    I agree, T5 and a quick change
     
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  22. Checking in!!
    Coming back from the high desert. Got some goodies for the T, like a 32 heavy axle!
    IMG_3338.JPG
     
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  23. J.Ukrop
    Joined: Nov 10, 2008
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    IMG_4122.jpg
    Checking in from San Francisco. I've been doing some test and tune with the new setup. Feels good to have this machine back on the street.
     
  24. Bearing Burner
    Joined: Mar 2, 2009
    Posts: 908

    Bearing Burner
    Member
    from W. MA

    I know that this site is 99.9% A,B, and T Ford . However I'll give it a try. I have '32 Plymouth 4 cyl engine which I would like to convert to insert bearings. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Rich Fox said that he used Alis Chalmers bearings in his engine years ago but couldn't remember what year or Model.
     
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  25. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
    Posts: 1,255

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    BB,
    no problem, can you give the crankshaft dimensions and the existing bores in the block? after babbit removed.

    John
     
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  26. denis4x4
    Joined: Apr 23, 2005
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    from Colorado

    The inserts in my 1931 engine are Kabota tractor that were installed around 1985
     
  27. johnneilson
    Joined: Apr 12, 2011
    Posts: 1,255

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    are you sure they are not Buda diesel?
     
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  28. Tribalmonkey
    Joined: Feb 17, 2019
    Posts: 491

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    Ok. I’ve read more including the link at the beginning of this thread - Jeep T5 trans in torque tube - and I am not clear on the most direct route to do this.

    I get that I need a Jeep T5 4x4 trans, an adapter from??? Looks like I need to shorten the torque tube and shaft maybe. I bet there is more to it, right? TM


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    Last edited: Apr 2, 2021
  29. klawockvet
    Joined: May 1, 2012
    Posts: 424

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    Checking in.
    I was gone for a month and just got back. I put the new battery in and was a bit surprised in that it fired right up and had instant oil pressure on my B block and crank. I was pretty sure it would have all drained down by now. Maybe the cold weather makes it stay longer in the passages???
    I have wondered if I had a parasitic draw that was causing a problem but the only things possible would be the Tickin thru time turn signals or the FS ignition. Anybody have problems with either of those drawing down the battery? I have the ignition running directly from the battery through a 39 ignition toggle. Nothing else on that circuit. I run the gauges and everything else thru a push pull switch that stays off. Only thing not wired in that connection is the turn signals and I never had a problem back when it was 6 volt. I had to get a whole new set up when I went 12v. I still have the 6v in a box if anyone is looking for one.
     
  30. hardtimesainit
    Joined: Jan 24, 2009
    Posts: 457

    hardtimesainit
    Member

    Most of our wiring systems ....are home made. As such, unless one is an automotive wiring expert, gremlins will visit and flaws will be exposed.
    So, is there a fool proof method to prevent leaks... and dead batteries... when stored for lengthy periods of time?
    I found that putting a quality cut off switch in the battery GROUND cable does the job 100 percent of the time. Your choice.
     
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