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Technical ***April 2017 Banger Meet - No Fooling!***

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Mar 31, 2017.

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  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
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    Here is the banger link list:

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Here is a list of most of the prior monthly banger meet links:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

    Banger basics. another info link list:

    http://www.fordgarage.com/

    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    The link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/may-bang-er-thread.470853/page-4#post-5212157
    and this link shows the missing image from the above post
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/...-work-on-bangers.1010716/page-3#post-11427055

    The 4 Banger hot rod picture thread.
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/the-4-banger-hot-rod-picture-thread.997051/

    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484

    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://web.archive.org/web/20120415...e.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:

    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php

    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05

    Chevy Banger Stuff

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10


    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226


    New Banger Block in the Works
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/new-banger-block-in-the-works.616056/
     
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  2. Bluto
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    Yes I am "Partially sighted" but still here!
     
  3. No fooling? That mean I can't fool with my car this month?
     
  4. Andrew Mccann
    Joined: Aug 2, 2016
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    from Bristol UK

    Big month for me. The '28 chev has received its re bore. Pistons ready to go. Will it run this month?
    Probably not. But, in the name of scrimping and saving, soon.
     
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  5. winduptoy
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    checking in now if I could just find my car keys
     
  6. Good morning guys. I getting ready to pull the head on my coupe, gasket is leaking. I have a Snyders head of unknown compression ratio that I would like to install on it. My question: Is there a way other than CCing the head to tell if its a 6 or 5.5:1 head? Also do you think that it matters much which head it is? The engine is stock doesnt smoke runs good and a Babbitt motor
     
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  7. RussTee
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  8. jerseyboy
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    Finally finished the 32 woodie in my avatar. Plans changed from the hopped up four I was originally intending.

    John-a-good-1932-ford.jpg
     
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  9. MJW
    Joined: Jun 29, 2006
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    from NJ
    1. PA. NJ. local HAMBERS group

    Got the Phaeton started with the mag. Shot a short video of it running before adjustments. Can't upload it from my phone but it's over on my Instagram page @markwellnitz until I can get to my computer.

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  10. johnneilson
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    Checking in
    In racing, there is cheating and then there is creative interpretation of the rules.
    Also, rules are written and printed, that is the only guide you have to go by.
    When inspectors start off with "that is not the intention of the rule", you know that you are in trouble.

    J
     
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  11. noboD
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    It's only cheating if you get caught.
     
  12. denis4x4
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    from Colorado

    I like to think of it as creative thinking!
     
  13. waxhead
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    Just checking in, nothing to add at the moment.
     
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  14. Rules and Regulations? I guess I've done a little "Flexing" in my time....
     
  15. V4F
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    Yes I am "Partially sighted" but still here!

    aren't we all
     
  16. Binger
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    Checking in for the month. Not too much new to report. I did swap out all the springs in the cushion of the seat in my coupe for shorter ones. I ended up taking almost 3 inches out of the height of the seat. Now I am not looking at the top of the windshield when I drive. Made my hands super sore removing springs from 2 seats and reassembling one. Sorry I didn't get any shots of the finished product. You couldn't tell just by looking at it in the car anyway.

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  17. colinsmithson
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    Interested in this engine can you post more info on the build what piston and parts are you using I have a 28 chev engine to rebuild 1 day and parts are not common here
     
  18. Andrew Mccann
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    I have a slow build thread going on it.
    I'm using std model A pistons but it's meant boring the block from 3.687 to 3.876 which is putting the block at some risk of failing or overhearing between 1,2 and 3,4. I can't say If it will work yet...
    Another option is a Mercedes piston measuring around 94.4mm. But I had the A pistons to hand.
    I'm using A rods as they are a tad longer, better steel, fit the pistons with no mods and don't have a pinch bolt at the small end. They also are the same 1.5" big end dimension.

    Andy
     
  19. edfueler
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    Hey there, checking in. I have a bit of thrash on to get a racer happening for the "Rattletrap" beach race at Crowdy Head, Australia.
     

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  20. Even if it "runs good" you should check the babbit clearance on the galloping bars (connecting rods) any time you are increasing the compression IMO
     
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  21. V4F
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    at least check center main
     
  22. Good point
    Also good advice
    Thank you
     
  23. blgitn
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    Checking in.
    Spring Carlisle in two weeks!
    Maybe I'll find a Model T kit.

    -Roger.
     
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  24. colinsmithson
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    Hey Andy thanks for the info I would have never thought of boring that much to fit A model pistons
    I was wondering how using this comb effects where the top of the piston finishes in the compared to the standard 28 chev
    Colin
     
  25. Andrew Mccann
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    Colin
    The rod length plus compression height of the chev is 9.3125
    The A figure is 9.4065
    To really gain height you can find some Durant rods that are around 8"

    People have, allegedly, screwed plates to the piston tops to gain some height.
     
  26. Herb Kephart
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    Guilty ! But that was on a John Deere "B" tractor, 35 years ago. The plates were 1" thick. The present owner still uses the tractor occasionally for mowing, and the engine hasn't been apart since I molested it.. Filed the rod journals a little bit rounder too. Those were the days, my friend----------

    Herb
     
  27. I'm thinking that I've got all the parts ready to go the same direction at the same time. That said, we'll be taking it over the first part of next month to Buttonwillow Raceway (West of Bakersfield California) to run at Vintage Auto Racing Associations "British Extravaganza". This is one of the best values for spectators in racing $10.00 FOR AN ALL WEEKEND PASS! Sonoma2016.jpg
     
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  28. johnneilson
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    It is quite the deal at $10 for weekend.
    I really liked that track, running SCCA we had many weekends out there.
    Best part is the multitude of configurations, My Son loved the Riverside to Magic mountain, then Star Mazda config.
    Had some nice video of car getting airborne ove MM from inside car.
    I miss those days, but not the body work or chassis straightening.

    J
     
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  29. Binger
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    Met a friend of a friend who is working on a model A coupe and wanted me to come by and look at it. Turns out it has a OHV B motor. He said it was an Andrews or Anderson? I can't remember the exact name. Shame on me. I had never heard of one let alone seen one. (I am a bit younger and haven't seen lots of things. Haha ) It has dual windfields on it too. I was a little surprised by the open distributer shaft and that it can have dual plugs too. Does any body have any information about this head?


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  30. We'll be running the 13th Turn clockwise configuration which of course include "Magic Mountain" and "Phil Hill". I find that if I rotate my car (usually with "trail braking") before it un-weights on the "hump" and set up for a late apex; I not only go faster, I avoid those nasty uncontrolled flights off the track. We have to be mindful of our fellow "PreWar" competitors as well. Some are lucky to crack 60 m.ph. down the back straight. ~lwf0002.jpg
     

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