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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Jiminy, Apr 1, 2015.

  1. Jiminy
    Joined: Oct 25, 2012
    Posts: 322

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    Here is the banger link list .

    For the HAMB banger newbies, here are some links to a lot of banger info:

    Flat Ernie maintains the monthly link list. Every month is listed:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=161498

    Banger basics. another info link list:

    http://www.fordgarage.com/

    http://www.plucks329s.org/index.htm

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=251717

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=42480

    Post #105 of link below shows flywheel lightening dimensions
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=6

    Model B rod bearing insert numbers
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6992484#post6992484


    Engine tuning with a Vacuum gauge
    http://www.centuryperformance.com/tuning-with-a-vacuum-gauge-spg-148.html

    Adjusting dual Strombergs:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=6638461#post6638461

    Helpful Model A tools and tips:

    http://www.maurer-markus.ch/ford_a/tipps.index.en.html

    Gary in MN's late model Malory distributor conversion for A/B engine:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9147025&postcount=109

    Elrod's stuck head tech:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=218487

    Model A generator to alternator conversion:

    http://ejwhitneyco.com/automotive.html

    Gear ratio / speed and RPM calculator:

    http://www.accuautoparts.com/calculator.php


    Model A master cylinder mounting bracket ideas:

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...73#post4953173

    Go here to read the 1931 edition of Harry Ricardo's book "The High Speed Internal Combustion Engine"

    http://www.scribd.com/full/40610101?access_key=key-w2bcjicdancrnxypd05


    Chevy Banger Stuff

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/s...d.php?t=463465

    http://www.scribd.com/doc/22469332/The-High-Speed-Internal-Combustion-Engine-Ricardo-1931

    Post 198 starts a great discussion of the shape of a flat head combustion chamber

    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=10


    T-5 5 speed in a Torque Tube:
    http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256226
     
  2. RussTee
    Joined: Mar 25, 2008
    Posts: 1,197

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    Thanks Jim always look forward to the banger meet to keep in touch with the tech other than the more general banger page on facebook.
     
  3. nosdan
    Joined: Mar 27, 2009
    Posts: 228

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    Question for the group: Added a 6:1 head, Mallory dizzy, burns single df w/ 97. Runs out pretty good but it has some hesitation at lower rpm, I'm assuming I may need to try small jets to compensate? Any other recommendations... Runs like a top at higher rpm. Thanks. Here's a pic of intake/carb, before dizzy and head. Thanks!
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  4. Thanks for the photo. Been thinking of switching to a downdraft this summer, will have to research it more.
     
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  5. I'd start with a 43 jet and up one spot from standard on the power valve. Say a 64 or 65?
     
  6. Crazydaddyo
    Joined: Apr 6, 2008
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    Thanks for the link.

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  7. nosdan
    Joined: Mar 27, 2009
    Posts: 228

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    Thanks hotrodfil.
     
  8. modelAsteve
    Joined: Jan 9, 2009
    Posts: 341

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  9. Yeah, well worth doing a plug check before changing jets. A couple of runs down the road, one at speed and the other at your hesitant lower rpm point, killing the motor and coasting to a halt will tell you something.
     
  10. nosdan
    Joined: Mar 27, 2009
    Posts: 228

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    Good point!
     
  11. orangeamcs
    Joined: Jun 23, 2007
    Posts: 600

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    What is the best way to install a model b engine and transmission in an A? I eventually want to use a 32 k member, but for now I was thinking of getting parts from clings for mounting the pedals and wishbone. I am assuming I can use the stock front mount from my A motor? This leaves me with the rear motor mounts. The rear float a motor kit from berts model a is no longer available. Anyone have a place I can get that kit for rear mounts from or a suggestion on what else to use? I am assuming Ill need a v8 clam shell also? Hopefully I am on the correct path with this. Trying to source all the parts before I take my car apart. Thanks
     
  12. nosdan
    Joined: Mar 27, 2009
    Posts: 228

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    The intake has two bungs that are all the way through the wall for linkage and accessory. So I re-installed the screws coating them with silicone and that seems to have made a huge difference in response at low rpm. I'll run it some more and see what the plugs are telling me. Thanks guys!
     
  13. Anyone have a banger Mallory distributor to part with?
     
  14. Freemoe
    Joined: Dec 22, 2011
    Posts: 50

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    from Fresno, CA

    Anyone know what type of water pump this is, trying to see if I can rebuild it? Tried to compare it to stock water pump but they seem different. Don't want to buy a leakless if I don't have to. The water pump doesn't leak but does squeal. The generator has been eliminated as a cause since it was changed out to an alternator and the water pump has already been greased.
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  15. ebtm3
    Joined: May 23, 2007
    Posts: 837

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    That's a old after market pump, one of the early ''leakless'' variety. Squealing is something inside that is running dry, perhaps the seal has finally on it's way to dying. Good pump when they worked, I always looked for them on junk engines. Take it apart and look it over. No parts--unless you make them, or or harvest from another pump of the same make---available.

    Bottom line is go with modern leakless.

    Herb K
     
  16. Freemoe
    Joined: Dec 22, 2011
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    from Fresno, CA

    That's the exact info I needed. Thank you!
     
  17. Snyders makes a nice one that's leak less and greaseless with a modern seal. I run one of these. After having rebuilt two cherry housings and have them only last a few 100 miles. I wish I would have just bought the Snyders pump to begin with.
     
  18. Bluto
    Joined: Feb 15, 2005
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    Happy April
     
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  19. kiwikid
    Joined: Sep 4, 2004
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    hi guys, pretty new to this banger stuff , looking to make an intake , will use a single 97 what size runners would ou use , an one got some pics they would care to share thanks in advance
     
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  20. What year and make of banger?
     
  21. kiwikid
    Joined: Sep 4, 2004
    Posts: 15

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    Hi just a 30 model a looking to make a single carb intake
     
  22. kiwikid
    Joined: Sep 4, 2004
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    anyone ...... keen to see pics of homemade intakes and know what size pipe you used cheers
     
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  24. I finally added hubcaps. I had a friend detail the Ford Ovals for me.
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    That's my son's car seat. My Coupe doesn't have high back seats.
     
  25. denis4x4
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  26. I blasted the Ford green off the cylinder head and gave it a couple of coats of yellow. It is now an official Winfield yellow head. :cool:


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  27. waxhead
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  28. ebtm3
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    It's not the color that makes more horses-----

    Herb
     
  29. RichFox
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    Yes it is. Yellow motors are way faster. M&B Dodge Bros..jpg engines.jpg
     
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  30. colinsmithson
    Joined: Jan 27, 2013
    Posts: 383

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    Thanks for the info Rich
    Now I know how to get that last few HP
    (paint it yellow)
     

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