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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by HOTRODPRIMER, Jul 6, 2019.

  1. I bought some new tires a few months ago and cleaned them with greased lightning and all the blue was gone and they looked great, I was looking at the tires yesterday after noon and noticed they looked like I had been driving down a dirt road, so I hosed them off and pulled the car back in the shop.

    I went out in the shop about an hour ago and looked at the tires and they looked the same as the day before, the dingy brown film doesn't seem to wipe off, what gives?

    Have you ever seen or heard of something like this? HRP


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  2. I would write or call the people who manufacture the product, and ask them if it is alright to use the product to clean tires.
    My experience is, that I would not use a product that was designed to clean wheels, to clean the tires as well. As for the tires, I would want to apply a product designed to protect the tire, just to make certain that you are not losing the oils from the rubber.
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  3. dana barlow
    Joined: May 30, 2006
    Posts: 4,047

    dana barlow
    from Miami Fla.
    1. Y-blocks

  4. I would try brake fluid it will not harm rubber.
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  5. Moon50F3
    Joined: Sep 18, 2014
    Posts: 216

    from Mesa, AZ

    I miss the old formula of Westley’s Bleche Wite. I know that doesn’t help you. Mine seem to have a similar dingy film, but I’ve only cleaned them with Comet.
  6. Doublepumper
    Joined: Jun 26, 2016
    Posts: 654


    It seems today's white walls aren't what they used to be either. I had the same problem on one of my bikes. I tried everything I could think of the get them white. Came to the conclusion they were never white to begin with, just some blue dye over brownish white. With that and the added cost of so called 'whitewalls' I won't do them again.
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  7. Bob, I have been using greased lightning on blackwalls & whitewalls both bias ply and radials for years and the product has never given me a problem and always makes whitewalls very bright.
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  8. The product I have used to preserve rubber and vinyl for years, was called Amsoil Protectant. I don't know if the product is still sold with the same name, but it was excellent for keeping rubber soft and helped reduce and probably eliminate checking. I have some very old low mileage tires on my beater truck, and they still look great.
    I used Armorall, but didn't like it because it left a film.
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  9. deathrowdave
    Joined: May 27, 2014
    Posts: 2,246

    from NKy

    It’s not car related , but the same issue . I bought a new pair of Goodyear White Walls for the old Harley . The correct tread pattern and all . 2 months later they are faded a yellowish tan , a restorer saw them at a show and paid me 2x what I purchased them for , because he needed to aged look for a project . It just seems to me as a trickle down effect from CHINA . They are the greatest at stealing products , coping a great looking piece and selling it for less , but it is a piece of Schmidt ! The AK47 is one great example , China’s works produced in the millions , but is it the quality of a Russian piece , noway . The China copies were a really cheap war surplus item , “ carried by a VC and only dropped once .” Sorry , had to vent a bit .
  10. dirty old man
    Joined: Feb 2, 2008
    Posts: 8,684

    dirty old man

    I'm using "Mr. Clean Magic Erasers" on my tires, both Diamond Back WW and stock blackwalls after a tip from Fuzzy Knight. Dip in a bucket of water, squeeze out most of the water, scrub lightly, then without hosing off, wipe dry with paper towels. Seems to work very well.
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  11. HRP,
    I was not familiar with the product, but the reason I made the statement I did, was because I
    have used wheel cleaners where the instructions specifically stated that the product was not to be used on the rubber.
    Rubber compounds have changed so much in recent years, that I can confidently state that I wouldn't know what to expect when using cleaning products them.
    One of the other posters stated that using brake fluid was an option. I have never thought of using it on tires, but have used it for years to soak diaphragms and gaskets from two cycle carbs, to soften them up. This has worked well for me. If I was going to try using brake fluid on a tire, I would want to try it on an old sacrificial tire first, to make certain that it would not soften the tire too much, or that the combination of brake fluid and sunlight would be damaging to the tire.
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  12. I live just a few short miles from a Michelin Tire manufacturing plant in Sandy Springs, South Carolina and know several people that are employed there, I am told that they have started using a new carbon black ingredient in the rubber, that may have some effect on the tires themselves. HRP
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  13. Like everything else today, the components used in manufacturing change far more frequently than in the past. Sometimes, this is to make the product better, but other times, to save in the manufacturing process. Progress is not always to our benefit.
  14. catdad49
    Joined: Sep 25, 2005
    Posts: 4,396


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  15. That could very well be the problem. Rubber isn't naturally black, carbon black is added for that. I had a set of motorcycle tires years ago that literally turned brown, the explanation I got was they didn't add enough carbon black to the mix when they were made. Didn't seem to affect them otherwise.

    Good place for some Tire Dressing... :rolleyes:
    I used to thin the dressing with gas, then wipe it on with a rag rather than painting it on. You didn't get that glossy finish that way.
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  16. Kiwi 4d
    Joined: Sep 16, 2006
    Posts: 2,840

    Kiwi 4d

    Our Coker’s look like they came from a neglected 4WD . Took them off the 32 and cleaned one for comparison . Think I resorted to thinners in the end, probably not the best thing to use . Then a light tire dressing to get them back to an even dull black.
    I know its the ozenator stuff oozing out but it still peeves me.
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    Joined: Jul 20, 2006
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    HRP I know that you don’t like tire dressing, but if you can find someone who sells WAB products, try their tire dressing. It is a low sheen dressing, so the tires don’t shine like they do with most tire dressings. The only place that I have found WAB products is at heavy duty truck places.
  18. DDDenny
    Joined: Feb 6, 2015
    Posts: 13,785

    from oregon

    Went through the brown sidewall deal for years with BFG T/A's.
  19. That looks better. HRP
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  20. 1oldtimer
    Joined: Aug 21, 2003
    Posts: 7,594


    Look up "tire blooming". I get it on my truck on one side that faces the sun more.
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  21. Moon50F3
    Joined: Sep 18, 2014
    Posts: 216

    from Mesa, AZ

    ^^^ I did. Learned something new. Thanks.
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  22. Bandit Billy
    Joined: Sep 16, 2014
    Posts: 6,873

    Bandit Billy

    Tire dressing = bad
    Tire product = good
  23. 427 sleeper
    Joined: Mar 8, 2017
    Posts: 1,051

    427 sleeper

    I've always liked to use Pledge furniture wax. Low sheen and repels dust to an extent. Gives everything a nice, even, natural black look. It also seems like it keeps the natural oils in the rubber, they don't turn brown.
  24. I use Meguiar's Natural Shine Vinyl & Rubber Protectant. It does not shine and keeps tires black. I put it on liberally and then use a clean rag to remove it and that makes it nice and even. Just looks like new tires.
  25. 3W JOHN
    Joined: Oct 8, 2015
    Posts: 686

    3W JOHN

    Danny, have you tried naptha ? I wiped it on my tires and they still look good.
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  26. No John, when I was in the paint business I sold Naphtha and I remember from the MSDS it contained hydrocarbons like coal and petroleum, with the petroleum that should remove any surface contamination, as for the browning, I don't know but it's worth a try. HRP
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  27. sunbeam
    Joined: Oct 22, 2010
    Posts: 4,974


    Remember when car dealers would use tire paint on tires and rubber floor mats? It does help with UV.
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  28. Petejoe
    Joined: Nov 27, 2002
    Posts: 10,582

    from Zoar, Ohio

    From my experience brake fluid applied to tires will turn white when the tires get wet.
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  29. I sure don't want that, I drive my old beater a lot and they get wet a lot, it's summer time in the South and we get a lot of pop up thunderstorms. HRP
  30. lucky ink
    Joined: Feb 18, 2011
    Posts: 330

    lucky ink

    I to had the brown look on new rear tires from Coker. I used Meguiars and solved problem so far.:D

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