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Discussion in 'HA/GR' started by BS!, Mar 13, 2019 at 8:18 PM.

  1. BS!
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    G'day All,

    Instead of hijacking spanners threads with progress shots I figured I may as well start my own build thread.

    Another reason for doing this is for some accountability and to keep me motivated to get this bloody thing done now that life has somewhat settled into a bit of a rhythm after a hectic few years of marriage, starting a family, house renovations, house sales, house purchases, more house renovations, career changes and all the other things that tend to get priority of time and money over racecars.

    Finally, I also figured it would be good to have the build documented somewhere.

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  2. BS!
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    Ok, enough of the excuses and let's get into it.

    I've always been a fan of drag racing and motorsport in general but the nostalgia and 6 banger drag events that are held fairly local to me are something that I've always been really keen on.

    After attending a meet in late 2016 to watch a mate race his gasser I sort of had the urge to try and get something together myself. The funds to build a gasser were out of the question and I've always owned local 50s and 60s cars fitted with the first of Holdens inline 6 cylinder "grey motors". As a result I had a bit of a spares stash for engines and old performance bits that were the norm on these engines so I decided if I am going to do something the HA/GR class would probably best suit my budget and interests.

    This lead me to the rabbit hole of info out there on the web and as luck would have it I stumbled across a chassis for sale down in Sydney which is 1000km south of where I live. After speaking to the seller I grabbed it sight unseen and this is where the fun begins.


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  3. bobw
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    Great start. And that's no BS!
     
  4. BS!
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    As it turns out the guy I bought the chassis off was a very handy bloke to meet. He builds hot rod chassis and had a hand in building a lot of the cars when the class first kicked off down here. He also has a pretty quick car himself and after seeing it in action I knew I was in safe hands. On top of this he is a top bloke and now a mate who I regularly have a few beers and a bonfire with whenever work takes me down to Sydney.


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    Lots of research and internet surfing on how I was going to set this up lead me to getting my basic plan together. The basic plan was

    Holden 138ci grey motor
    Toyota W40 steelcase 4 speed Gearbox
    Toyota Hilux diff

    And the search began for the bits and pieces I needed


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  6. BS!
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    The little holden "grey motor" has a bit of a cult following in these parts and I took a lot of inspiration from early grey powered cars that were used in the early days of the sport in this country.



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  7. BS!
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    The little grey motor is known to have a bit of a weak bottom end. More research and talking to people with experience on keeping these things together lead me to meeting a bloke called Lindsay Wilson who is now also a good friend and a wealth of knowledge. Lindsay was a local drag racer back in the day and eventually got into dry lake racing in a grey motor powered FX Holden ute. Sadly the salt took it's toll on the old ute and it's no longer around but the driveline and a lot of his spares still existed. Once Lindsay found out what I was doing he took a bit of an interest and sold me his engine from the ute albeit in need of a freshen up after the abuse of the salt and years of sitting around. That being said it was a tried and tested combo and had a few good bits included. I'll cover more on the rebuild later.

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  8. BS!
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    After lots of conversation with Ron about how to get the car setup and rolling I made the decision to take my chassis, diff, dummy engine and gearbox back down to his place knowing he would do it properly and most importantly make the car as safe as possible for me. For me, being someone who had never setup a chassis before this ended up being a pretty good move in my opinion as Ron went above and beyond what I was expecting him to do. It also allowed me to focus on rebuilding the gearbox and making a start on the engine rebuild and other bits and pieces.

    Here is some what Ron did. I can't give the guy enough credit for his part of this build.

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    And more of Ron's work:
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    And a few months after dropping it off, while down in Sydney for work I called into Ron's place and he had pretty much knocked it over and was ready for me to shoot back down and pick it up. In the end the car has been setup using an aftermarket front end, Suzuki Sierra steering box, Holden grey motor, Toyota w40 gearbox and a solid mounted Toyota Hilux diff.

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  11. BS!
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    As mentioned, while Ron was busy with the car down south I focused on getting the driveline rebuild started which is something more in my comfort zone. Even this took longer than it should have though with the mad rush to finish the house rennos before son number 2 was born taking a bit of wind out of my sails from both a time and money perspective. Such is life.

    The gearbox was out of a mint old low mileage 70s Toyota Corona that had the driveline stripped out of it for a 2jz conversion. Upon stripping the box down it was like new but to be safe I threw a bearing and seal kit through it after having the case, extension housing and bell housing vapour blasted. The bellhousing is an early castlemain rodshop bell housing for a holden red motor (same bolt pattern as the grey but does not have the side engine mount provisions) that Lindsay had supplied me. I also fitted a slave cylinder adaptor and slave cylinder to suit the grey motor conversion

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  12. BS!
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    Next was the carbs/intake.

    Triple grey motor BXOV-1 Stromberg carbs were used on a Specco manifold. There are bigger and better carbs out there for these engines but I've had these for years and wanted to use what I had already to keep the costs down.

    Once again everything was pulled down, acid dipped or vapour blasted before being ceramic coated or plated and put back together. Once together linkages and fuel lines were then made to suit.[​IMG]

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  13. spanners
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    This thing sounds serious. I might have to lift my game. We got washed out in Sydney at the Day of the Drags last weekend but hopefully racing at Gunnedah this weekend.
    For some reason the photos aren't showing on my IPad so I'll crank up the 'puter later to check them out.
    Keep up the good work and I'll look forward to a match up at the Nostalgias?
     
  14. BS!
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    If mine goes half as good as yours does I will be stoked with that. It was actually day of the drags 2 years ago that I bought the chassis back down to Ron's for him to work his magic so I certainly have been dragging this thing out..

    I uploaded everything through the tapatalk app so maybe that is why? All the photos work on the phone and Ive done this post on the PC throgh the HAMB site page and the photos are all working but some of them are a bit arse about/upside down but hopefully everyone gets the gist?
     
  15. BS!
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    By this stage I had the car back home in QLD.

    The head Lindsay had supplied was off being hot tanked and crack tested to assess if it would be useable or not. I also took the supplied cam to Tighe Cams to have it put on their "Cam Doctor" machine to asses the profile and while they were at it surface a matching set of lifters. Thankfully both the head and camshaft came back sweet and should be useable for what I want to achieve.

    Billet pushrods, a steel timing gear, sfi rated balancer, billet sfi rated flywheel, clutch kit and new ancillaries were also ordered so I have everything ready to go once it's time to get the bottom end machined and bolted back together.

    The hunt was also on to decide and locate a set of compiling wheels and tyres for the category as the wheels and tyres on it were an old set I had lying around to keep the thing mobile while we moved house to the other side of the city.


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  16. BS!
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    In the end, I decided on a set of early Ford wire wheels. My choice is definitely not the best from an unsprung weight and performance point of view but I think aesthetically the wheels suit this build. Sometimes form rules over function.

    Surprisingly these wheels are pretty easy to track down in oz and after attending a few of the local swaps I picked up a relatively solid pair of 34 Ford wires for the rear and a pair of 35 Ford wires for the front.

    The 34s were cut down to 15" fitted with 5x4.5 centers and widened to 6". The 35s were left stock but I will be changing these to 5x4.5 centers in the not too distant future to suit the Ford Falcon trailer hubs I am running on the front. This means spare wheel bearings, seals etc will be easy to locate at the local parts stores should I ever come to grief instead of having to order in early ford specific parts.


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  17. BS!
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    Antique Tyres supplied some Excelsior 500/525-16s and tubes for the front as well as a pair of Coker L78-15s for the rear. Once again not the best choice from the unsprung weight and performance view but again I chose form over function..

    It was at this stage a bit of a spanner was thrown in the works.[​IMG][​IMG]

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  18. spanners
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    I don't remember being thrown in. But, then again, I do forget stuff these days.
     
  19. BS!
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    For whatever reason the local tech inspectors from my home tracks governing body had supposedly taken exception to the roll cage compliance on some of these cars. I don't know the full story and don't like being involved in drama so to cover my arse I decided to get one of the tech inspectors around to check over the work on my car that had been done to date.

    In summary he wanted the cage changed from a 4pt cage to a 6pt cage and a few other bits and pieces of 3/4" cro mo tubing put on some gaps around the cage.

    Thankfully Steve and Jeff Danglmaier who race in the class live 10 mins down the road from where I live and kindly volunteered the use of their notcher and a Sunday of their time to cut the old bar work out and convert the cage to a complying 6pt cage.



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  20. BS!
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    After borrowing Jeffs notcher again and getting a few more of the gaps closed up hopefully the cage will get through tech once it has been fully tigged up.

    This brings us pretty much to the present day. I'll keep the updates up while I focus on the cooling, fuel and electrical systems.

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  21. Old6rodder
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    Looks like you have enough cage there for a pulling tractor meet now. :cool:
     

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