Projects And So It Begins

She’s a hanger!! Got the rear brakes bolted up with juuuuuuust enough clearance for my brake lines/fittings. Somebody along the line clearanced these perches for hydraulic brakes....good for me!! Don’t know why the paint came out so shiny....it’s supposed to be satin like the frame. Gonna dig up some lug nuts in the garage this weekend and hopefully get the wheels and new tires on! Thanks for stoppin’ by fellas!


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Looking a your last picture; the big bore of the wheel cylinder is supposed to face forward and the long lining shoe goes to the front.

 

The paint wasn't mixed up well enough to mix in the flattening agent in the paint to be the desired satin finish

 

So the fitting will face rearward?

I thought I heard somewhere that the big shoe went in the front....wasn't sure.
What was the logic behind this?

 

I shook the sh*t outta that can! It was sitting for a while though. Sprayed the drums with the end of the same can and cured satin.....
Maybe I'll spin the next can up in the lathe for about 2 hrs.....

 

I agree with Rich B. Lockheed brakes are different than the self energizing brakes. I just looked at mine and both rear brake lines leave the wheel cylinder towards the back of the car.

 

Yep....just found a diagram. Odd though, in the diagram, it shows the fittings facing forward....
Sh*t....those clips were a pain in the ass! Well, better to get this info now instead of when it's all together. You see, THIS is why I post here!! Thanks fellas!

 

Just swap your backing plates side to side if it's easier than stripping and rebuilding

 

That's what I'm gonna do with the fronts.....I'm still looking for the parking brake hardware, so I at least wanted the cable tubes in the correct location. I was also thinking of utilizing an in line hydraulic lock of some type, depress the pedal and pull the valve.....something like that. Right now I'm having issues getting the drums on the rear....the outer lip of the shoe is binding with the inner portion of the drum. When I tighten the nut, the drum locks up. I'm all the way in with the adjusters and I did grind a little off the shoe to wheel cylinder tabs like the note says that comes with the shoes but still no luck. It was getting late and I was tired, but I did see the witness marks on the brake shoes. I need to remedy this before moving forward. ANY input on this would be GREATLY appreciated!!
Thanks for your input Dedsoto.......

 

Anyone ever run into this problem getting your rear drums on.....anyone??


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Long ago we used axle shims to space the drum out further when putting juice brakes on "A" axles; but from what I remember it was the drum rubbing on the backing plate lip that was the problem.

If the drums have been turned, were they cut all the to inner edge of the braking surface.

If it is just the edge of the lining; I have seen the outer edge of the lining beveled to clear.

My kid just narrowed a set of shoes on his mill to cure a similar problem; but on a different application.

By the way, it is emergency brake hardware; not parking brake hardware.

A line-lock will do you no good in an emergency situation.

Line-locks are for "operational" parking, not use as regular parking brake; I've more than few trucks roll away in the old days of Mico brake locks.

 

I do have a set of shims. I did put the drums on the lathe and took that inner lip off....that’s what was leaving the witness marks on the shoes.
Well, it went from emergency brake to parking brake....we were explicitly advised to tell customers it was a parking brake because modern ones ain’t stoppin’ shyte in an emergency.....
The lexicon has stuck in my vernacular ever since....
Thanks for the input Rich!
Definitely will try the shims.....

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Great progress being made. You might need to loosen the wheel cylinders to get the pipes fitted, then bend the pipes and snug the cylinders home.
Mart.

 

Yay!!! I’ve at least got one side done so I know what to do to the other side.... I took the lip off the inside of the drum but the side of the shoe was still hitting the drum. I put one shim on the axle and kept putting the drum on and tightening until it hit the shoe and made witness marks. I knocked down where the witness marks were and evenly did the whole side of the shoe ...on and off with the drum until it spun freely....I measured the width of the shoe so I know how much to knock down the other side on the mill...Thanks for you input Rich, it helped alot!!!


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Thanks Mart! That's what I was thinking....loosen the cylinder to get the fitting started. I did screw a fitting in today without loosening the cylinder and it screwed right in, but....we all know that'll change once the line becomes involved.
Where ya been? Ya haven't been around to keep me on my toes!!

 

True roller now!! Rear brakes installed and secure!! I’m guessing I won’t have issues with the front brakes; being that the spindles, backing plates and drums all belong together.....headed for vacation, so I won’t see this for another week and a half.....BUT, for me, this is a great note to head out on! Thanks for hangin’ in there with me fellas, you’re all TRULY appreciated!!


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looking good.....

 

Absolutely the definition of perseverance!!! Job well done.

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Thanks Carl! It feels good!


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Thanks KB! Definitely a learning experience, one I can appreciate and use for the future. My Tudor will need attention in the future....inner axle seals are leaking.
I’m in Virginia for a spell, maybe I’ll bumble upon something good!
Thanks for the moral support.....


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Really like how the wide fives turned out. Really nice color combo.

 

Thanks pumpman! And once the engine is in, the front will drop down nicely..... I’m still beating myself up over fenders or no fenders, that’s why the running board brackets are still there....
Thanks for poppin’ in and hangin’ out.....


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A look back over the past year......photos

 

And here we are....one year later.......Thanks to everyone that gave me guidance and those that put their foot up my ass to keep going.....I appreciate every single one!!

 

Great idea putting all the pics together. It's really impressive the progress that has been made. i like that you have fabricated the vast majority of parts too. Built not bought.
Mart.

 

Thanks Mart! You're one of the guys that put your foot up my ass and made me rethink things. I'm now always thinking "what would Mart do?" I absolutely appreciate your input. Plenty more to come!

 

Great review of the past year. You got a lot done!

 

Thank you kind Sir! You guys have kept me motivated at times when I felt like packin' it in! You've all given me the motivation I've needed to carry on.....It's been inspiring to me more than I think you all know........posting and sharing with you guys has become a major highlight of my day.....PLEASE everyone......don't change!!