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Technical Alternative turn signal switch

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  1. neilswheels
    Joined: Aug 26, 2006
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    Living in the UK, my 40 has to have turn signals. I’ve looked at the aftermarket stuff but don’t really like any of them, they all look bulky and ‘aftermarket’. I toyed with the idea of modifying my column shift lever to operate turn signals, as the car is now floor mounted manual shifter, but then I remembered my old car days when I played with VW’s. This is the turn signal switch of an old bug, Oval window I think, it fits the 40 column perfectly, and the design looks right at home in my 40’s interior. This one doesn’t have a high beam flasher, but, late Split busses do, and although it may need a bit of modifying to mount to the column, it could be another option. Just thought I’d share a small victory, and it may help someone looking for an alternative solution. I think this would work with the column shift if you wanted, as it has a really thin band that wraps around the column, and wouldn’t interfere with the shifter tube.
    Of course I now need to fill the column shift cut out in my dash and smooth out the column bell, but hey.. 9CBB1594-90E5-458B-8BF7-AEEE2B902F5C.jpeg
     
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  2. 41rodderz
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    Actually that is a great idea. Looks really good. Thanks for sharing.
     
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  3. chevyfordman
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    Nice looking unit, you can get the new electronic devices that just have switches, or you can mount the device you have under the dash but they are a pain to use.
     
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  5. GordonC
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    That is a good idea and it looks pretty good. I didn't like any of the ones I could find. They looked like what they were, an add on turn signal. I mounted it up under the dash on the left side with just the handle end showing. Still works but most of the ugly is out of the way now!

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  6. TrailerTrashToo
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    In England, they drive on the opposite side of the road. Seating in an English car is reversed, so the steering wheel is on the right side of the car. I worked there briefly in the 1980's, drove a hire car (Hertz rental), all my USA driving reflexes were useless in traffic (fortunately no tales of destruction).
     
  7. Professor Fate.
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    Uh, that steering wheel is clearly on the left hand side.
     
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  8. Looks good. Do they self cancel?
     
  9. DDDenny
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    Now that you have a floor shift consider what my roadster has.
    Two Hurst line lock switches tied in to a little black box with electronic self cancel feature.
    The traditional police will frown on it I'm sure, that's the beauty!

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  10. 1-SHOT
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    IMG_1273.JPG Thanks Neilswheels for the idea, I think I will hunt one up for my 40, mow I just need to find some Semaphofe for it, I always thought they were neat.
     
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  11. TrailerTrashToo
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    I missed that, I still suspect that an English driver expects that the turn signal stalk to be in this position.
     
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  12. neilswheels
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    Yep, most of my cars have the indicator stalk on the right.
     
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  13. neilswheels
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    That would be cool, but i'm going with flashing red tail lights, which is legal over here for this age car, and although they are not 'that' familiar to the UK drivers, no one knows what semaphores are anymore, so I think flashing reds are the better bet.
     
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  14. neilswheels
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    Nope.
     
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  15. But not all of them are like that; I owned a '56 RHD Anglia in the late '60s, it had the lever on the left.
     
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  16. neilswheels
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    So does my Mums Toyota, drives me crazy!
     
  17. 28dreyer
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  18. coilover
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    I used electronic self canceling motor cycle T/S on my 37 Buick but since it also has the three point seat belts and I'm tall reaching the left underside of the dash was a hassle. I relocated the switch. actually two momentary buttons, to where a seat adjuster would be if on the side of the seat. Now my left hand drops right down in place with no stretching and most never even know it has signals.
     
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  19. patterg2003
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    Thank you for sharing. That's an idea that I have saved & may borrow. It is clean and looks like it could be original. I had a 60 beetle when I was in college. It was simple as all get out and felt like a car out of the 40's. One thing it was good at was passing gas stations and finding parking spots when the 1970 the cars were huge in comparison. It had 36 hp and made a person pray going up a steep hill with a Kenworth tight on the rear bumper. I went to college on the prairies but I had to go back and forth in rugged country to get on the prairies. A tense drive to get to the flatlands then the car could keep up and it was perfect for zipping around.
     
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  20. I'm using one of those with a 40 dash too.;)

    I got mine from a 1937 Ford truck column which someone had installed decades ago. In other words, free. It has a broken pot metal stalk which had a half arsed repair. This caused me to look up parts and/or buying another one - at which point I had heart failure at the prices! It includes a green light knob.
     
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  21. ...I used a standard aftermarket switch on my 48 F-1 like this,...works great.
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  22. 34turnsignalswitch.jpg 34turnsignallever.jpg The VW unit looks really good. I didn't want any turn signal apparatus showing on my column so I used an old Rodders Digest trick. I used a turn signal switch from a junk 80 Chevy pickup and mounted it under my seat. The stalk sticks forward under the seat. My seats sits really low in my coupe so it's a natural feeling to reach it. Only down side is no cancelling but the indicator [above the windshield] is very bright.
     
  23. dirt t
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    If you want a turn signal flashing indicator us a 3 prong flasher the extra terminal is flasher indicator.
     
  24. 56sedandelivery
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    When the nephew and I rewired his/my 51 Chevrolet Business Coupe, I bought a NOS harness advertised for a 47 truck ($25.00!!!), and it came setup for turn signals (???). Using the KISS principal, we installed a 3 way switch in the dash hole left by the original column shifter (now on the floor). Just had to "remember" to move the switch back to the center position after a turn. I was't even aware of a self cancelling electronic switch at the time; that would have made things so much simpler/easier. Or, that VW switch would have been far better. It's interesting to see how others have approached adding turn signals.
    I am Butch/56sedandelivery.
     
  25. the-rodster
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    American Autowire make a simple toggle switch that works, I've used it in my last two builds.

    Rich
     
  26. 37gas
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    look at the top half of a 1965 or 1966 Corvair steering column. I have used them for the last 35 years and love them, they work great.
     
  27. PONTNAK123
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    this is what we use. under dash turn signal kit. thru summit racing or different companies on ebay. usually around 27.00 nice and neat turn signal toggle AWW-500148.jpg s-l1600.jpg
     

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