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Projects Adam's '30 Roadster Shed find! AV8 Build Thread

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Adam M., Oct 16, 2011.

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    Moving the pedals up and over solved some problems but created others. There wasn't enough room for this upper bolt and the assembly hung off of the edge.

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    An old previously enjoyed pipe about to get a new lease on life.

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    I sandblasted the area and the piece of pipe.

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    Welded in place and a new hole drilled.

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    Time spent modifying it to made it look like it was never modified!
     
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  2. mike bowling
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    Nice garage, excellent fab work- you got it goin' , Brother!
     
  3. PASTDUEBILL
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  5. Thanks Mike!
     
  6. Another roadster coming back to life. Looking good!
     
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  7. PASTDUEBILL
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    [​IMG]sorry to keep hijacking your thread, but I thought you would appreciate the Galaxie next to the roadster.


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  8. Great build! I'm not sure how I missed it but it's great. Keep at it, I love your Devil's in the details approach
     
  9. Good taste in vehicles, Your Galaxie looks great....and I have a Ford truck too!
     
  10. Keep the updates coming
     
  11. PASTDUEBILL
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    [​IMG]the truck



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    I finally made the decision to step the rear frame. I wasn't sure I wanted to, but I talked myself into it!

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    I scribed a line on the frame 4-1/2" ahead of the rear crossmember.

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    Welded on some braces to prevent the rails from moving around.

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    Chopped off! No going back now!

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    Works out to be roughly a 2-1/2" Z in the frame
     
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    I saw this Model A frame rail on a scrap pile in a guys backyard some time ago. I thought later that I might have a use for it someday, so I went back and he wasn't home. I left $5 in his mailbox!

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    Adjustable stand. You can see the piece of aluminum under the stack of the wood at the back. By sliding it forward it tilted the crossmember to the right angle I needed. Not fancy but it did the job.

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    Using pieces of that old frame rail, I started to fill in the step.

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    Before weld prep and welding.

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    Welded and smoothed out.

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    Here is that rail with the required pieces removed. While it may look like I wasted material, but the bottom side was pitted more and there are holes in the top that I cut between.
     
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    Before pictures of the frame step.

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    After. This body is pretty rough, so when I start on the body repair, I'm going to step the sub rails too. I plan to use the original wood blocks back here.

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    Roughly 5/16" was trimmed from the ends of the crossmember.
     
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    Here is a problem that is often mentioned, but many people don't notice. Not all Model A frames are the same. This is a 1928 frame and I'm using a 1930 Body.

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    The pad that the radiator sits on, is flush with the top of the rail on 1928-29 frames. 1930-31 The pads are lower then the rail.

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    Instead of swapping frames or changing the front crossmember, I decided to modify what I had. I first measured the front to rear location of the mounting hole. In my case, it was 4-1/8" from the front of my V8 mounts to the centre of the slot.

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    I had scribed a line around where I needed to cut 1/2" down from the top of the frame rail.

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    I cut the pads off.

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    I had planned on making new filler pieces, but once I cut them open, I decided to take the off cuts, swap sides, then turn them upside down and backwards and reuse them. The mounting holes would then be in the wrong spot so I welded them up.

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    Welded and blended. I used the original pieces to take advantage of the radiused edge.

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    I dropped them 1/2". That will help with hood alignment, improve lower rad hose alignment, but likely won't help with the fan to top tank. The next mock up will show these.
     
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  16. Aaron D.
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  17. Tech tip of the day- frame dolly

    I made this simple dolly from an axle and a tongue from a trailer that was laying in my neighbours yard. I've used it for years. I try to do as much cutting and grinding outside, so I can just slip this under and roll it out. The axle is positioned that when there is a body on it, the balance is right. Saves your back or having to bother somebody for help.

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    I went through my stash of wheels and came up with these 4 that look very similar and that are straight. They are all from different vehicles too! Two are 4" for the front, and two 4-1/2" for the rear.

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    I cleaned and painted the insides.

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    I was never a fan of the red, but they were like that when I bought them, and used them for mock up until I decided on colours. I decided that couldn't wait any longer.

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    Mock up again. I really like the new lower stance with the stepped frame and the new wheels.
     
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    Mock up again

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    With the new rad position, the hood fits too if I decide to run one.
     
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    There are many things to do on the car, but I thought putting on some headlights that are not held on with vicegrips would be fun.

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    I cut the ends from the 1930-31 headlight bar. I had ground the underside smooth, then clamped them to a piece of plate.

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    Makeshift height gauge to mark them. This is a handy tip, it makes things easier sometimes.

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    I cut them off, then made sure they were the same height. I put a grove in them to help locate the bar and help keep it from sliding around while I tacked the parts together.

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    A transfer punch is great for marking the center of a square hole with a round peg.

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    I smoothed the ends out too.

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    Welded together and bolted down. This is race mode.

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    Street mode!

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    I had some old carriage bolts that had a similar look to the rest of the grungy parts, so I shortened them to suit. They blend right in!
     
  21. 51box
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    from MA

    Great job so far man, that is looking real nice.
     
  22. Pete
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    Such a great build! Awesome pics and work.
     
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    I took this wishbone from a 1941 Mercury and split it and cut the front spring mounts off of it way back in January 2011! (Picture from 2011)

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    Spring mounts gone (January 2011)

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    Gave them some shape! (January 2011)

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    They looked nice, but I never really liked that extra bulk on the top. Fast forward to yesterday, and I decided to do something about it.

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    They rusted a bit laying around over the last 6 years.....

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    Last time you will see them like this!
     
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    I set them up in the mill for some milling action. I installed the perch pin with the tapered nut and snugged it up. I alighned it close to some 1, 2, 3 blocks.

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    Dialed it in to zero running the spindle up and down.

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    On this axis, I could not just move the part in the vice to dial it in, so I had to tilt the head just a bit.

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    Picked up the hole and set the readout to zero.

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    .275" was taken off the top.

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    60 degree countersink

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    Thinned out!

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    Before and after

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    Both done

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    I'm headed outside right now for the next step!
     
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    I think that has a sleeker, less clunky look to it.
     
  26. 1-SHOT
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    You did good, they look perfect. Frank
     
  27. 39 Aaron NZ
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    I like how your car is coming together and that milling work really impressive! Very nice work, Cheers Aaron.

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  28. Thanks for all of the kind words! I'm glad people are watching the build, it helps with the motivation to get out and work on it!
     
  29. I'm really having a tough time making a decision on how to do the front end in this thing.


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    This is the current setup. Just about a blank slate.

    Option 1:

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    I thought about making mounts something like this. The wishbone would still be spilt, but tucked under the car.

    Option 2:

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    Use a yoke from a Model A wishbone, heat and bend it to the proper angles, then make a mount from the F1 crossmember. With the '41 bones, they are higher then a 32-34 style so space is limited. I'd likely have to run the yoke upside down to make it work. I don't believe the tube size is the same where I need to cut the '41 bones back to get the yoke in. That opens up another issue.

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    It's going to get tight in there with the brake linkage, clutch shaft, exhaust, etc.

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    Since the crossmember hangs down so low, I thought about cutting two holes in it for the exhaust to go through it and I can keep it tucked up. Option one won't work that way since those mounts would be where I'd be cutting the holes.

    Option 3:

    Keep the bones split, mount them on the frame. That's the simplest, easiest, fastest way that helps some other issues, but we don't always choose that route!


    I also thought about having the battery under the floor on the passenger side but I'm not sure on that yet. I plan to run 6v, so having the battery right near the starter could be a good thing!
     
  30. sloppy jalopies
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    IMO...
    don't split the bones, when one front wheel is lower than the other three a split wishbone will bind at the perch pins...
    tube axles are worse...
     
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