Are you going to Hershey? You might get some answers there, especially if you have the radiator/shell in hand?
If you are going to Hershey and need a spot to display the radiator or photos of it and a question and and answer request poster feel free to use mine C4J 41-42.
Thanks guys, but Hershey is out of the question this year,.... I have a ton of work to do on and in the shop before the snow starts to fly (which will be way to soon),...... I really would like to reunite this radiator & shell with it's history,.... I was invited to take it down to the Brickyard Museum to see if I can do some research,.. maybe sometime this winter if there open.
This thread is back from the dead ! Just thought some of you would like to know,............. Well the ol' Fronty Shell & Radiator was just sitting in the office of the shop,... a pal that worked for the GM Archive, said he knew a few guys that should be able to get to the bottom of it. after perusing it pretty closely for quite a while and comparing it to what ever information they were able to find,.... The general consensus is,........... They feel very strongly, (based on there research) that this is almost certainly the radiator from Louis Chevrolet's Car# 3 Frontenac/Monroe, 1920 Indy car that had a accident, and went out on lap#94 due to steering issues. The reason they can't tell us 100% for sure,.... is there is no other parts from any of these Frontenac / Monroe cars known to exist,... At this time this is the ONLY piece known to have survived of any of the 1920-21 Frontenac Race Cars,.......... So there you have it ! To the best of my knowledge this is the word on this really interesting part of Auto Racing history. Thanks guy's,..... it's been a wild ride !
Actually,... you and your thoughts, along with the picture from the Fox book were my driving motivation to keep going on this,..... I spent the last week thinking about what to do with it (read that worrying about it, How could I display it?, leaving it hang on the wall at the shop would be risky at best),.... it deserves to be seen,... so my pal in Canton is going to find it a new owner,.... I was actually nervous around it after finding out what it was. The guy's from the brickyard wanted me to donate it,.... but my Son is struggling to buy a house, My Wife and I are currently in no position to help them....... So whatever it brings, will go toward there down payment and help put a roof over there heads. I hate to let it go,.... but it's kind of scary keeping it,.... someone else needs to maintain, show, and conserve it. take care of it like it should be taken care of.
Hey Phil,.. I thought it was going to Australia,... either way. I was sorry to let it go, but were trying to help my son out on closing on his house,.... When it comes to rare parts, this is the rarest of the rare,..... congratulations ! I felt honored to have owned it for the time I did, and excited to have had the HAMB Brotherhood help return it's history to it. Could you Imagine what might have happened to this Unique piece of auto racing history, if it's past remained a mystery ? All HAMBers (especially Ryan) deserve a pat on the back for this one,.... and now are truly part of it's ongoing history,... As it turns out, I just about "Broke even" on it,.... But I get to help out my son, and see this Fronty part enjoyed and preserved. Very Best Regards,..... Dennis (a.k.a. Harms Way)
It is going to a good home in Australia and will be preserved and very much appreciated by the new owner. Phil
Ancient, but fun thread that I thought would be worth another look. Note the curvature at the bottom of the radiator: Now look at the curvature in the bottom of the radiator in this picture: The size & shape of the cooling fins appear to be correct also. Opinions???
I have little,.. if any doubt that it is the genuine article,.... and a significant part of racing history,... just glad it went to a good home.
what color is the 1920 winner of Gaston Chevrolets? I have seen conflicting info on the color of the car: some have it a medium to navy blue with a red nose and others show it almost as a grass green with the red nose. which is it????? I'm thinking of making a model of it and have seen some models in blue but a more recent one in green. I"m soooooo confused.
I had thought the 1920 Monroes were green and the 1920 Frontenacs were maroon. I have seen red but I seem to remember reading that they had a shade close to maroon. I seem to remember some reporter saying they were "marooned in the pits" referring to the color although I cannot swear it was 1920 (maybe late teens but Louis may have been partial to maroon-who knows). In that William Small was putting up the bankroll if may be that he wanted some differences between the Monroes and Frontenacs I had a model of the 1920 winner and mine was green and I have seen some with a red flower pedal front. The Coburn photos seem to show some differences in the shade on the front so it may be red on at least Gaston's car.-Jim
I have an unbuilt AURORA model around here somewere and the box art has a blue car with red nose for whatever that is worth. Bob
I came across this great old thread and wondered if any more information was ever found out about the Frontenac radiator please?!
Thank Bob, yes I think it did. Just wondered if any other history or a positive ID have happened since.
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