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Projects 60's Era Street/Strip Model A Coupe

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by -Brent-, Aug 1, 2019.

  1. -Brent-
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    1st Real Mockup - We HAD to Know:

    I've owned this coupe body for nearly 12 years. Last night, for the first time, I didn't have to imagine what it will look like as a roller.

    In order to make some decisions on a few things, we wanted., needed... HAD to see it mocked up.

    Model A Coupe Driver Side.jpg Model A Coupe Full Fender.jpg Model A Coupe Interior Muncie and Brake Lever.jpg Model A Coupe Passenger Side.jpg Model A Coupe Side Shot.jpg Model A Coupe Slicks Rear View.jpg

    This is mocked - not final. There will be some changes, some adjustments, and there's still a shortlist of things to do.
     
  2. Crkrjac
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    Unreal Hot Rod!

    I’ll be back....got to go push my junk off a cliff now.
     
  3. Tim
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    That front 3/4 shot is on the money man! And the stuff we talked about last night is pretty obviously just the angle of the photo after seeing all these photos.

    that car better have a hell of a bark with it looking like that!
     
  4. Killer, killer, killer!
     
  5. -Brent-
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    Model A Parking Brake Handle, Adapted to a Muncie 4-Speed:

    There's not much stock Model A left in this car. The brake handle was something I wanted to retain.

    Jim Stewart made the bracket and bellcrank assembly for me after I saw the one he made for his tall T. We modified it a bit to work in the coupe.

    The tab was moved from the top to the bottom of the arm coming off the frame. The arm was heated and bent to fit. It now sits, centered, right above the tailshaft of the trans.

    Hand Brake Assembly Muncie in a Model A Ford.jpg

    Model A Hand Brake Adapted to a Muncie.jpg

    Here are some pics of the kit from post 137.

     
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  6. Tim
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    Clever, deceptively simple, and strong. Seems to be a theme developing...
     
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  7. Clever idea! I really like that. Might have to file that away for when I get back to work on the phaeton. Looks like a early Ford brake or clutch pedal was used and modified?
     
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  8. -Brent-
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    That's exactly what it is. Also, a new bronze bushing was inserted on the pivot end.
     
  9. enloe
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    After you got it mocked up, how long did you sit in it and make engine noises and fondle the shifter. I would still be in it:)
     
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  10. -Brent-
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    Model A Handbrake on Muncie Transmission:

    The linkage is done.

    Handbrake Linkage Muncie and Model A Ford 2.jpg Handbrake Linkage Muncie and Model A Ford.jpg
     
  11. -Brent-
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    Pitman Arm Modified to Clear Hairpins and Converted to Ball End:

    Here's the pic from the previous post. The idea was to use a 32-34 ball on a later pitman arm.

    Putting a Ball on a Ford Pitman Arm.jpg

    My pal, Brian, changed the bend and did the ball end. The ball was pressed in, checked, pulled out and modified, and then pressed back in and tigged.

    Ball End Installed Onto Pitman Arm.jpg Modified Ford Pitman Arm.jpg

    He cleaned it up and there you have it. Below is a comparison to a stock arm.

    Stock vs Modified Pitman Arm.jpg
     
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  12. Pete Poling
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    Do you know what year that had the arm on it that you call stock? I have one from a ‘46 car and need it to bend in to clear the bones. I can bend it but if I can buy it like that then I would. Does that arm have 78-3590 on it? IMG_4598.JPG


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  13. Pete Poling
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    Looks like ‘37-‘41... it’s amazing what google can find! Thanks and you have a amazing ride!


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  14. -Brent-
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    Ladder Bars:

    I haven't really shown the ladder bars on their own. I've been waiting to post finished and adjusted pics but we've been doing other things. And, actually, tonight I was editing some photos came across the pics of the bars and I realized I'd forgotten to post them.

    I think it was @mad mikey wanting to see them... so, sorry for the wait brother!

    Here are some material specs:

    Main tubes are 1" OD tap tube
    webs are 3/4" OD tap tube

    They're still needing to be trimmed and fitted with jam nuts.

    Hartman Ladder Bars on Table.jpg

    If you look at bars from the 60s, they all have their differences. Ryan had these in mind, inspired by the model kits he made as a kid and the drag cars he drew while he was daydreaming. I had sent him a few pics of what I liked and I let him have fun.

    After hearing him tell me the back story to the design going back to his youth, I liked them even more.

    Ladder Bar.jpg

    Ryan split some tube and grafted it into the back of the ladder bar brackets. Nothing goes untouched.

    Ladder Bar Axle Bracket.jpg

    I love details like this.

    Hartman Ladder bar Axle Bracket.jpg
    A view from the top/back.

    Model A Competition Chassis With Ladder Bars.jpg

    From down-low, looking in.

    Ladder Bar Pass Side.jpg

    That front gusseted area is the way Ryan drew them as a kid.

    Ladder Bar Model A Coupe.jpg

    I love seeing the bars from this view!

    Ladder Bars Under the Model A Coupe.jpg
     
  15. brad2v
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    Good God. My new favorite current build. Ryan's eye for detail is amazing. An absolutely wicked looking mo-sheen!
     
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  16. No problem waiting Brent, this stuff takes time. They look great. Very 60's. Great job Ryan.:)
     
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  17. brianf31
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    Awesome detail!
     
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  18. loudbang
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    Cool new Avatar :)
     
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  19. -Brent-
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    Thanks so much, fellas.
     
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  20. -Brent-
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    Front Wheel & Tire Comparison:

    The first time I saw the 16x4.50 Firestones, I was pretty surprised at their small size. Mounted up and certainly in the pics, they don't seem so small.

    16x4.50 Firestone.jpg

    Here they are mounted on 16x4 steelies. I had them blasted when I did the frame and before we left, I sprayed them with epoxy primer. Last week, we dropped them off at an autobody shop for some gloss black.

    Steelie and 4.50 up front.jpg

    When it comes to finishing the car, these wheels will get some pinstripes. I think another inch out of the front is needed.

    16x4.50 Firestones Model A Coupe.jpg

    Here's a comparison, side to side. The steelies land in the same place as the spindle mounts.

    16x4 Steelie vs 12 Spoke Spindle Mount.jpg

    In this pic you can see the heavy axle isn't in place. That's because it's sent out to get some attention.

    I'm looking forward, again, to seeing it back as a roller with the dropped 32 and steelies... and a few more items from the list.
     
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  21. Thor1
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    Brent,

    Just my opinion, but having the front of the car a little higher as it is in the last few photos looks killer.:cool:

    [​IMG]
     
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  22. I agree that higher stance is tits
     
  23. Stogy
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    Evil, Wicked, Mean & Nasty...that's the Ticket...Top Mark's from observer and Hotrod Fan Stogy...;)
     
  24. -Brent-
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    It's hard for me to tell unless the body is on.
     
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  25. Higher, lower, its all good.;) Got to say, I do love those spindle mounts.:cool:
     
  26. I dig your vision! Looks like it could have been a 60s AMT Model Kit!
     
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  27. spindle mounts get my vote....
     
  28. -Brent-
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    Thanks, Trent! There's certainly a bit of that inspiration in this car.

    It looks cool with spindle mounts, I'll give you that. Lots of folks believe spindle mounts should be on this car, too. I'm just not one of them, hahaha. Actually, there's a 5-spoke spindle mount mounted on the car, right now. This car will get brakes - with 100% certainty. Where I live - most drivers are inconsiderate and there's traffic. Those two reasons, alone, make me want brakes.

    When it's done, I am going to drive it as much as possible. I want to be able to thrash on it and I like the security of brakes allowing me to get on it.
     
  29. 54BOMB
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    Yea, that’s serious right there.
     
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