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Technical '58-'60 T-bird and Galaxy steering wheels the same?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by falcongeorge, Aug 6, 2014.

  1. falcongeorge
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    Is the only difference between the '58-'60 galaxy and t-bird steering wheels the horn ring, or is the wheel itself different? I have been trying to suss this out looking at internet photos, inconclusive.
     
  2. falcongeorge
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    Gonna give this a bump...wheres all the squarebird guys?
     
  3. falcongeorge
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    Bump for the evening crowd.
     

  4. I don't know about the 58 or 59, but the 1960 Galaxie wheel was totally different.
     
  5. falcongeorge
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    Ok, thanks guys! '58-'60 Tbird wheels are the same AFAIK, so thats a no.
     
  6. junkyardjeff
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    They look to be similar to a 56 merc as with the column.
     
  7. Yutan Flash
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    Uhhh...no, they're nowhere near the same. Look at the previous post: the one with just the horn ring is for a full-size car '58-'59, and as previously noted the '60 wheel, especially the Galaxie one versus Fairlane, is radically different; the complete wheel shown is for a '58-'59-'60. Full-size wheel needs larger center for ring to snap/turn into. Full-size '57-'59 needs the larger hub behind the wheel to conceal the back side of the steering wheel and give a place for the exposed shifter tube to go above the steering column tube, which conceals just he steering wheel shaft; the '58-'60 T-bird uses a concealed shifter tube that goes over the steering wheel shaft, and has trim to conceal the turn signal switch as well as show the gear indicator on AT-equipped cars. The T-bird column is similar to mid-'50s Mercury columns; as noted above, '56 Merc with 3-spoke wheel would be comparable.

    I've never really liked the exposed shifter tube on pre-'63 Fords versus the concealed tube columns used in Mercs; in fact, if I can manage to hang on to my '55 Victoria, I want to treat it to a cut-down '55 Merc column and clean up that part of the interior, then do something about the round bezels/controls and go more rectangular a'la '54 Ford/'55-'56 T-bird, but that may be another car, another time.
     
  8. falcongeorge
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    Yup, '56 merc wheel looks the same to my eye. Do you think a '58/'60 T-bird horn ring would fit on the merc wheel? Looks like it, doesnt it?
    This wheel is one year only in the merc, isn't it? The '57 wheel is different.
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  9. junkyardjeff
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    The 58 to 60 birds also used 55 heater controls,yes it was a one year only wheel in the merc.
     
  10. falcongeorge
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    Thanks guys, broadens the hunt a little bit anyway.
     
  11. falcongeorge
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    Ok, further to this, I got this for $35 on evilbay, it was listed as Edsel, but I have had trouble finding a photo of an Edsel with this wheel in it. Sure looks the same as the T-bird and '56 Merc wheel to me. Anyone know if this really is Edsel, or was it just listed incorrectly?

    Its in damn good shape, just a few minor cracks that will be easy to fill. Add a reproduction horn ring from MAC's, some pearl white and a bullet in the center, and Bobs yer uncle...

    edsel wheel.jpg
     
  12. falcongeorge
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    Looked at a ton of Edsel pics, finally found one, '58 Ranger, so you can add that to the list of cars that had this wheel.
    ranger%20sedan%20interior1%20(2).jpg
     
  13. junkyardjeff
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    Never knew a Edsel had the wheel too but does not suprise me and I think the 58 to 60 Lincolns might have used that column too so it could also have the same wheel.
     
  14. falcongeorge
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    Long shot here, does anyone have an exploded view of the column/horn mechanism they can post, or pertinant pages from the shop manual? The reason I ask, I'm not using this in a T-bird (as most have probably guessed by now) this is going in my '39 with a fabbed column jacket, and I am going to have to fab/piece together a functioning horn mechanism as well. I have a pretty good idea how it all has to go together, insulated triangular 3-bolt contact plate with a spring on top, horn ring on top of the spring, horn ring makes contact with the plate, HONK HONK! :D but an exploded view of the original set-up would help me suss it out easier. Yes, it would much easier to just use a moon wheel or my '57 Ford wheel, but I want the T-bird wheel, and well, you know the rest...
     
  15. froghawk
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    I think it was only the manual shift and non-"Teletouch" (no push buttons) automatic trans '58 Edsels that used that wheel.
     
  16. falcongeorge
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    You are correct. I looked at a TON of Edsel interior photos before I found that, 95% of them had the ugly-assed pushbutton deal.
     
  17. Nope , the 58 Lincoln wheel is very different again... Screen Shot 2014-09-26 at 4.45.29 PM.png
     
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